Re: [CR] Was: KOF Bike Tech at Paris-Roubaix? Now: 2x front.

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:58:40 -0500
From: "Todd Davis" <todd@tdavisphoto.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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Subject: Re: [CR] Was: KOF Bike Tech at Paris-Roubaix? Now: 2x front.


My front wheel of choice for racing during the 70's and 80's was 2x low flange. I never had problems with keeping them true or breakage of any sort Even on brick and rough courses. Crit wheels were built with Dt spokes on high flange Campy hubs. Low flange for the road wheels. Todd Davis St Louis, Missouri

On 4/17/10 12:58 PM, billydavid13@comcast.net wrote:
> Hi Tom. I've seen a lot of conventional [i.e. 32 or 36 spoke] wheels laced radially. I hate the looks and i've seen a fair number of hub flanges pulled apart on such builds. Still the emergency rooms don't seemed to be filled w/ riders of such wheels so they must work, mostly. A 2x has to be a lot stronger and i routinely build my front wheels that way. Not a whole lot of stress on the front wheel. And 2x looks pretty good. Cheers. Billy Ketchum; Chicago, IL; USA.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Harriman"<transition202@hotmail.com>
> To: kevinsayles@tiscali.co.uk, info@m-gineering.nl
> Cc: "Classic Rendezvous"<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:28:54 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [CR] KOF Bike Tech at Paris-Roubaix?
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>
> Good Morning.
>
> Anybody ells notice that the front wheel is using a 2x spoking pattern? It's probably fine for a one day race, and the mechanic can true it up after the race. Still wonder if under the circumstances, it might be a little close to the demands of the race. Any other opinions on the subject.
>
> Tom Harriman (Finally a sunny weekend)
> San Francisco, Ca
>
>> From: kevinsayles@tiscali.co.uk
>> To: info@m-gineering.nl
>> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:18:54 +0100
>> CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Subject: Re: [CR] KOF Bike Tech at Paris-Roubaix?
>>
>> An interesting idea.......certainly 'safer' than a carbon fork over the
>> rough pav'e........but I would have chosen a fork with a curved blade to
>> soften the vibration.
>>
>> cheers
>> Kevin Sayles
>> Bridgwater Somerset UK
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "M-gineering"<info@m-gineering.nl>
>> Cc: "CR discussion list"<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [CR] KOF Bike Tech at Paris-Roubaix?
>>
>>
>>> Matthew 'Devotion' Bowne wrote:
>>>> I am always thrilled to see certain old-school bike tech make it's way
>>>> into the the contemporary European pro peloton...but this is one I didn't
>>>> expect to see...
>>>> Because of it's notoriously rough roads and brutal riding conditions, the
>>>> "Queen of the Classics", Paris-Roubaix has often been a proving ground
>>>> for new technologies. (Remember the Rock Shox in the early 90's? The
>>>> full suspension Bianchis, etc.?) Well not only has Paris-Roubaix brought
>>>> on the development of new bike tech, but recent years have also seen the
>>>> return of some old ones. Over the past few years, riders have been known
>>>> to outfit their bikes with steel forks, wide skin-walled classic tubies,
>>>> vintage cantilever brakes and other part mods that seem odd in the
>>>> current peloton but certainly "on topic" to groups like ours. Heck, even
>>>> Lance has been known to run early Dura-Ace Ax calipers on a TT bike in
>>>> recent history...
>>>> Anyhow, below is one that I thought might be of interest to The List:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/photos/roubaix-tech-cancellaras-race-winning-rig/115224
>>>>
>>>> That's right, a rider on Team Milram rode a lugged steel fork with a 1"
>>>> steerer tube! KOF indeed! Have a look at the pic and note the "reducer"
>>>> it needed to be coupled with to work with the over-sized headtube on the
>>>> presumably carbon-fiber frame. I can't help but wonder how this came to
>>>> be...A team mechanic's late-night "McGuyver" move? So why THIS fork? Are
>>>> there not still master-builders who would jump at the chance to braze a
>>>> (1 1/8") lugged steel fork for a pro riding in Paris-Roubaix? Anybody
>>>> have any thoughts or insight as to how this came to be? Any other
>>>> examples of KOF builds or tech used by modern pros?
>>>
>>> I thought it looked like a 1.125 steerer fork, and it certainly had the
>>> weight being close to 1 kg. And it was not a last night brain wave, the
>>> fork was finished early enough for a tv appearance. Don't know who built
>>> it though
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> mvg
>>>
>>> Marten Gerritsen
>>> Kiel Windeweer
>>> Netherlands
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