Re: [CR] Why do older frames have only one set of bottle bosses?

(Example: Framebuilders:Bernard Carré)

Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:51:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Steve Whitting" <ciocc_cat@yahoo.com>
To: marc.stmartin@earthlink.net, haddawad399@hotmail.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, oroboyz@aol.com
In-Reply-To: <8CCB48A149937DD-1AF4-46A8@webmail-m055.sysops.aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Why do older frames have only one set of bottle bosses?


I always thought it was because - with a second set of water bottle mounts - there wouldn't be room for a Silca frame-fit pump by the seat tube.  Tsk, tsk.  Silly me!

Steve Whitting

Prairieville, Louisiana USA

Website at http://ciocc-cat.angelfire.com/


--- On Tue, 4/27/10, oroboyz@aol.com wrote:


From: oroboyz@aol.com <oroboyz@aol.com> Subject: Re: [CR] Why do older frames have only one set of bottle bosses? To: marc.stmartin@earthlink.net, haddawad399@hotmail.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 8:34 PM

Back in-the-day, when braze-ons were just coming back into vogue, we would go to the NY bike show and look at the new bikes from Europe and ask, why only one water bottle mount? The Italians would look at us and say, "Why would anyone want more than one? Are you Americans that crazy?"

Dale Brown cycles de ORO, Inc. 1410 Mill Street #100 Greensboro, North Carolina 27408 USA 336-274-5959 http://www.cyclesdeoro.com http://www.classicrendezvous.com http://www.carolinacup.com \u201cLife is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving\u201d  A.Einstein

-----Original Message----- From: Marc St. Martin <marc.stmartin@earthlink.net> To: michael haddad <haddawad399@hotmail.com>; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Tue, Apr 27, 2010 9:23 pm Subject: Re: [CR] Why do older frames have only one set of bottle bosses?

I think Todd Teachout posed a viable theory in his 4/26 post related to Ray's Herse:

http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=classicrendezvous.11004.1081.eml

Regards.

Marc St. Martin Livermore, CA USA

-----Original Message-----

>From: michael haddad <haddawad399@hotmail.com>

>Sent: Apr 27, 2010 9:14 PM

>To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

>Subject: [CR] Why do older frames have only one set of bottle bosses?

>

>

>I find that on-topic frames (like my 1984 Cinelli, 1983 Pinarello & 1978 Masi)
tend to have bottle cage bosses only on the down tube. I know that 2 bottles
were needed for most road races (even in the 80's), so why only one set?

>

>The only thing I can think of is that the braze-ons might weaken the seat tube,
but then why have them on the down tube?

>

>I have been curious about this and would be interested in hearing a definitive
answer or some good theories.

>

>Regards to all,

>

>Michael Haddad

>

>Brooklyn, NY, USA