Re: [CR] Classic Rendezvous email list rules violation

(Example: Framebuilders:Doug Fattic)

References: <mailman.0.1272469603.62078.classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> <473832073C0F46CEB48835FC9A20C4C3@0mkj2zzd441ennq>
To: gkmunro@eastlink.ca, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:42:28 -0400
In-Reply-To: <473832073C0F46CEB48835FC9A20C4C3@0mkj2zzd441ennq>
From: <oroboyz@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Classic Rendezvous email list rules violation


Hi Greg:

Well congratulations, you are the first person to break our email list rules AND attach those rules in that very message! Ha ha!

PLEASE read the rules again so I don't have top kick you off.

Thanks, Dale List meister

Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina USA http://www.classicrendezvous.com

-----Original Message----- From: kent munro <gkmunro@eastlink.ca> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Wed, Apr 28, 2010 12:22 pm Subject: [CR] new memberwith vintage bike

Hello to all;

In trhe early 80's I purchased a used Italian road bike , was told it was close to twenty years old, it has no markings other than a serial number TC 8548 located directly below the seat post , the frame was dipped in a chrome bath, the headset is Gnutti, bars have Giro d' Italia logo, otherwise it is a mix of Zeus, Campagnola, Huret, Dura ace, the most interesting feature is the ornate lugwork, truly special !! After looking for hours the bike it most resembled ( lost somewhere in cyber space ) was a 1948 model ?? Is that what I've got here ??? ----- Original Message ----- From: <classicrendezvous-request@bikelist.org> To: <gkmunro@eastlink.ca> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:46 AM Subject: Welcome to the "Classicrendezvous" mailing list
  
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> 15. While the CR focus is on the beginning of the twentieth century to
> 1983, a few contemporary, classically made small workshop bikes are
> considered on- topic* here These are generally referred to as "KOF"
> (see # 2 above). Those welded, injection molded, or glued modern
> wonders belong in some other mail list. Ditto for mountain bikes,
> "middle weights", BMX, recumbents, and balloon-tired bikes. Those
> bikes have merit, but they do not belong on the Classic Rendezvous.
> Ditto for components that are post- 1983 or those which are harbingers
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