Re: [CR] Why do older frames have only one set of bottle bosses?

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:21:40 -0400
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Subject: Re: [CR] Why do older frames have only one set of bottle bosses?

One of my first water bottles mounted to a frame was made by Cannondale as I recall. I think it was 1982. My frame didn't have bosses for a cage and I didn't want to damage the paint with the metal clamps that were available. It had a plastic clamp that fit around the downtube and didn't damage the paint. It also had a velcro pad and the bottle had the matching fabric to allow the bottle to grab the velcro without having to insert the bottle into a cage. I only used it for two years, then bought a new bike in 1984 that had two water bottle mounts on it. It never crossed my mind to buy two of those velcro mounted bottles to mount the second on the seattube. I don't think I had seen anything like that at the time. Lou Deeter, Orlando FL USA

-----Original Message----- From: verktyg <> To: Eric Keller <>; Sent: Wed, Apr 28, 2010 4:56 pm Subject: Re: [CR] Why do older frames have only one set of bottle bosses?

The ultimate weight weenie device was the 44gm (1.545 oz.) Hi-E water bottle cage.

I used them because the single hose clamp was less likely to damage the paint (with some tape under it) ???

Chas. Colerich Oakland, CA USA

Eric Keller wrote:
> When I first started building frames in the mid '70s, water bottle
> braze ons were not very common. Then later in the '70s it became more
> common to have one water bottle cage on the down tube. I usually had
> a second water bottle cage, either on the handlebars or clamped to the
> seat post, sometimes both. The thing I don't remember is why the
> frames I built in the early 80s only have one set of water bottle cage
> braze ons. The only thing I can say is for most of the races I rode
> in back then, one water bottle was more than enough and I was still a
> weight weenie. Water bottle cages always came with clamps.
> > I always had my pump under my top tube anyway, even without a peg a
> silca of the correct size will stay there.
> Eric Keller
> Boalsburg, PA