Re: [CR] Tubies For Newbies!

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Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 00:33:20 -0400
From: "Ken Freeman" <kenfreeman096@gmail.com>
To: "Matthew 'Devotion' Bowne" <devotion_finesse@hotmail.com>
Cc: CR discussion list <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR] Tubies For Newbies!


This is often overthought. I fold a spare into a small bundle about 8 inches long, and wrap it in either a big rubber band or an old toe strap to keep it from springing apart. I've never had a problem with sidewall abrasion in a spare I carry, I think that is just excessive carefulness.

Truth be told, an inflated tubular spare will stay pretty well on a rim, even if only half-glued (no glue on the tire, leftover glue on the rim. In this case I do think it's wise not to ride too aggressively, primarily when cornering, and probably should within the bounds of safety avoid hard braking, too.

I carry a spare either in a saddle bag, handlebar bag, small tubular-shaped saddle bag, or a Velox under-saddle clip. I've never done this, but I think wrapping the folded tire in some newspaper (brown bag paper is probably better) before stuffing it all into the tubular bag or into the clip, is a cheap precaution.

There's a link somewhere, I think on (mea culpa!) Velocipede Salon, called "How to fold a tubular." This sort of trick is very useful when you do have a pre-glued tire to use as a spare.

In short, I DO just tie it up in a toestrap and hid the road. But there are a lot of ways. All these little nicky picky details have some benefit, but if you're a beginner using used or entry level tires (Yellow Jersey or Rally for example) just attack the basics first ( installing, inflating, removing, replacing, riding onward, repairing. Folding would be in Tubulars Level 2 Training. Unless you have already taught Level 1 and are studying to give course work in Level 2, I guess I don't see the need to know more than one elegant way to fold a pre-glued tire. Tweed pouches versus Rapha leather pouches is a graduate-level topic.

Used tires often carry enough residual glue to be effectively pre-glued. If in doubt, even with $5 tires, just fill them up to say, 75% (enough to hold shape even though inverted), and give the base tape a coat of glue before you start to collect your kit for a ride. By the time you're ready to roll out of the house, the glue should be ready to fold and be stored.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Matthew 'Devotion' Bowne < devotion_finesse@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Fellow Listers:
> I'm embarrassed to admit that after nearly 9 years of suffering from the
> vintage lightweight affliction, my latest project will be my first foray
> into the world of riding tubulars. (I have owned/ridden/raced tubies on our
> local velodrome, but never have I mustered up the courage to hit the streets
> of NYC with something that needs to be glued into place...)
> While there is *plenty* of internet material pertaining to the
> stretching/gluing/taping/mounting/repairing of tubular tires, my searches
> for info relating to carrying spares has been relatively fruitless.
> I'm sure it's been covered in our archives but even there, I couldn't find
> much help. In fact, many old threads from our list and other forums point
> to images no longer hosted online or have links that are now defunct,
> private, etc.
> I was able to find this one, which is a helpful guide to folding your spare
> tubular for under-saddle portage:
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> My first question is: Can any of you suggest any alternate or improved
> methods to fold a tire for under-saddle storage? Know of any good (active)
> links which show step-by-step instructions for folding your spare?
>
> Secondly, it's my understanding that it's a good idea to wrap your spare in
> a sock/bag/paper to protect the sidewalls from developing tears caused by
> vibrating and bouncing around under the saddle. Urban myth? Should I just
> tie the darned thing up in a toe strap and hit the road? Or wrap it up? Do
> you wrap the entire tire? Any good pics of tires wrapped and stored?
>
> Lastly, my spare is a new tire that I scored at T-Town for 5 bucks...The
> tires on my bike are glued (not taped) and while I pre-stretched the spare,
> I did not pre-glue. Is this an important step for a spare? Or can I
> substitute a tubular tape (Tufo, etc.) for on-the-road repairs? Is it a
> horrible idea to use a tape as a temp-fix on top of a layer of glue? Or do
> I need to pre-glue the spare to make it useful in the slightest?
>
> Mattie Bowne
> (FINALLY taking the plunge in...)
> Brooklyn, NYC
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Ken Freeman
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