Re: [CR] Peugeot PX10 Info and Sour Grapes!

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From: Peter Rogers <pjrogers@rogers.com>
To: "verktyg" <verktyg@aol.com>, <Carb7008@cs.com>, <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:17:23 -0400
Subject: Re: [CR] Peugeot PX10 Info and Sour Grapes!


Hi Chas, Nice bike....a Peugeot fan's dream to find such a bike. It is interesting that it has the Stronglight Model 93 fitted. It must have been the one of the first bikes with this crank set. It is nice to have an all-original bike, even from the point of view of dating it with some degree of accuracy.

My late 1960's PX10 frame was pretty beat-up when I got it on EBay France. It had spent its last years being used by a bunch of kids on farm. The seat tube was packed full of a mixture of soil and potpourri! It was compacted so tightly in there that I had some difficulty removing it. The paint and original decals had been all-but removed and it looked pretty sorry for itself. I am currently re-finishing the frame and this is why I had the details of the correct finish so clearly in my head.

I intend to fit a GB stem and Ventoux bars with Campagnolo bar-end shifts, in a similar set-up as used by Tom Simpson. Also, originally I planned on fitting an earlier Stronglight crankset (model 63 Super Competition), but the prices for these are just too outrageously high to seriously consider.

So far, the serial numbers that we have posted on this thread seem to fit into chronological order at least.

All the best, Peter Rogers

Barrie, Ontario, Canada

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From: "verktyg" <verktyg@aol.com>
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Subject: Re: [CR] Peugeot PX10 Info and Sour Grapes!


> My 21" 1967 PX-10 matches the description Peter Rogers listed.

>

> I got it at a local charity at the end of 2007. The person who donated it

> said that it had been sitting in a shed for at least 15 years. It was

> completely covered with a layer of dust - a true barn bike!

>

> The Brooks Pro saddle was a wonderful russet red color. Unfortunately it

> turned darker as soon as I touched it. It's stamped with a 1967 date code.

>

> The bike came with 2 sets of wheels, the original sewups with Normandy

> Luxe Competition hubs and old diamond decal Mavic rims plus a later set of

> 27" clinchers with a date of 1989 on the standard Normandy hubs.

>

> Everything appeared original except it had a later model Simplex Criterium

> rear derailleur dated 1973. The original would have been a Simplex

> Prestige-Criterium with a black plastic name badge.

>

> Here's a link to pictures on Flickr:

>

> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/28267220@N05/sets/72157624217336148/?

>

> I changed out the original AVA cast aluminum "death stem" to a shorter.

> later model AVA cast aluminum "death stem" and switched to wider period

> correct alloy bars.

>

> Aside from that, new cables, tape, 27" clinchers plus a thorough cleaning,

> I haven't done much else to it yet except occasional rides.

>

> The serial number is 483675 which doesn't say much according to the

> information on the CR PX-10 web page.

>

> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/France/bicycles/Peugeot/PX10_history.htm

>

> One thing that I look for on 1960s PX-10s is the Peugeot decal on the down

> tube. Around 1969? they changed from the simple gold with a black shadow

> to a more elaborate design.

>

> Chas. Colerich

> Oakland, CA USA

>

>

>> Well, the summer is apparently starting to cook here in Northern

>> Cal...what with Singers for a Song and all that. I'll have to be

>> satisfied with my humdrum recent 60's PX-10 acquisition. Knowing how

>> tricky dating these lovelies is, I'll report that close inspection of

>> Prestige derailleur revealed a stamping (3-68) on jockey cage. This

>> closely coincides with probable build date of this PX-10 w/Model 93.

>>

>> Also, I noticed that pics of 60's PX-10s (if B&W), have black-painted

>> seat-lug and BB shell while 70's are left white...just head-lugs black.

>> I wonder if this change can be traced to a specific year and ditto change

>> away from Nervex Pro during 70's PX-10? Jack Romans

>> Sacramento, California