Gents, Ladies and Mr. Rabbit:
A frequent reader, an infrequent poster am I. That being said, this Mr. Rabbit fella takes the cake (carrrot cake at that). I sometimes have the sense that people like Mr. Rabbit lead small, unimportant and unnoticed lives. They sit with their crusty keyboards, a cig on the side perhaps and they try to lay claim to a lost and wasted youth by periodically rattling their sabres. "Look at me (please)!!" I have something to say and a relatively captive audience. Perhaps the internet porn site of choice was down today and we had a little more time and frustration on our hands?
I for one enjoy the gob of it all. The CL's, the eBays and the interesting stories. Regardless if a topic was covered six years ago, sometimes it needs a little dust off and a little polish (just like a good porn site eh Rabbit?). Stories get better with age as they are recalled and retold.
So, pshaw to Mr Rabbit...keep writing in boys and gals...
Greg M. Gillis Pittsburgh PA USA
keeping Girls Talking.....one mashup at a time.
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:31 PM, <mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net> wrote:
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> Okay...
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> Everyone has had their chance to wax poetic, be the knight on the shining horse
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> for the person getting "picked on", rally the wagons, etc., etc., etc.
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> For the past two years, I have made two points over and over - which of course
> has gotten people all riled up each time:
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> 1. This is a site for the discussion of vintage, classic and KOF bikes, parts,
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> and their history as defined by Dale in the CR rules.
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> 2. This is a site for the discussion of restoration, mechanical repair, etc.,
> of vintage, classic and KOF bikes and parts as defined by Dale in the CR rules.
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> Now of course, each time everyone has gotten riled up - including some tossing
> outright profanity at me in public - Dale hops in and both publicly and
> privately reminds everyone including yours truly that it's his website and he
> enforces the rules.
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> Which is fine by me...for awhile...as I sit quietly and watch over a period of
> 2-3 months a 1000 plus emails land in my inbox of which easily 1/3 are OFF-
> TOPIC...mostly "attaboys" and general mechanics questions and discussions
> instead of vintage/classic/KOF specific mechanics questions and discussions.
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> Then of course having gotten tired of following the CR rules while watching
> others blatantly violate them - I run into a bad day and stick my ugly head up
> on the radar again - just like this morning.
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> As a case in point, it got so bad at one point awhile back that one evening, CR
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> became the new Craigslist Helpdesk. When I pointed that out, I got the usual
> heat including ad-homs. Surprisingly, even Dale joined in on the attack to
> which I asked paraphrasing: "So are you okay Dale with CR becoming a helpdesk
> for Craigslist when Craigslist already has one?
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> I never did get an answer...
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> So, regarding this morning, let's get down to it:
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> 1. Can I resuse spokes? OFF-TOPIC
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> It's a general mechanics question which has been answered a 100+ times over at
> bikeforums.net, forums.cycling.com and USENET courtesy of none other than Jobst
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> Brandt and company - all archived by Google, Bing and Yahoo search engines.
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> 2. Source for Robergel and Union-Berg? ON-TOPIC
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> I was happy to see that part because it was another reminder that once again I
> really do need to ask about the Berg part - I'm not familiar with it - assuming
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> it's the same Union that I am familiar with.
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> 3. Source for DT Swiss 2.0/1.8? GOES BOTH WAYS
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> Is DT KOF as a spoke? Some would say yes...some would say no...both sides are
> right in my honest opinion. Why did I go off on the poster? Simply because it
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> told me flat out that the poster couldn't be bothered to do a little research
> with a search engine with the 8 fingers and 2 thumbs already splayed out across
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> the keyboard. It took me less than 30 seconds to get a listing - one of which
> was Harris Cyclery offering custom lengths from blanks.
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> Now before you guys start firing off those rockets again - understand that we
> have had this argument before - and a couple others on this list have expressed
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> the same annoyance that I have with those we can't be bothered to do a little
> work up front with the tools they already have and know how to use beforehand.
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> Am I done yet with that point? Actually not...because not only do people not
> make use of those listed search engines - but they also ignore BIKELIST.ORG's
> own search engine which is linked and noted 3 times over at a minimum when you
> follow the directory to join, follow the directory to browse the listings, and
> when you follow the directory to review the CR rules as I periodically do.
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> Dale refuses to say it, but I will. Folks that do that in my honest opinion,
> whether unintentionally or intentionally, are displaying a lack of respect for
> those who maintain the site and list. BIKELIST.ORG's seach engine works fine -
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> and even then when a few of us who do use it don't find something - we note it
> and apologize in ADVANCE before posting just in case.
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> Now I am going to wrap things up...with a plea of sorts addressed to Dale more
> than anyone else:
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> Dale, I joined CR not to experience bikeforums.net, forums.bicycling.com or
> USENET. I joined specifically for discussions related directly to vintage,
> classic and KOF items as stated in your CR rules. Also I did not join to
> witness an IT helpdesk for Craigslist. Even some of the eBay help stuff is
> crossing the line. eBay also has help forums and a chat forum.
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> It has gotten to the point again where after trying very hard to read people's
> posts - I find myself realizing, here we go again...and doing a pipe/mv of the
> queues to /dev/null and restarting my qmail on my server.
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> Are you going to step in more and be more proactive about inforcing the CR
> rules? Seriously Dale, I WANT TO READ PEOPLE's POSTINGS, but the filtering
> quantity-wise gets flat out tiring.
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> My I suggest that you allow a couple others to do the enforcement - the likes
> of Jerome Moos and Bob Freitas for example? Jerome knows one helluva lot...Bob
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> can be short and direct when it's needed...they have been around awhile...the
> vast majority of us here know who they are.
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> Please address those questions in the plea of sorts above.
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> Sincerely,
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> Robert Shackelford
> San Jose, CA USA
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