Quoth JBZ:
"It would seem likely that other frames had phosphate and chromate treatments".
And I offer in testament as to the perspicacity of said supposition those bicycles once imported from Sweden under the Crescent MCB label wherein their 1970's era literature proudly proclaimed that their finish color paint scheme was rendered over a rust inhibiting Zinc phosphate primer base. As a former resident of the "Frozen Flatlands" of South Dakota, I came to perhaps better appreciate such preparations than I did previously when living out on the West Coast, because as Harry stated in referencing Neil Young, "rust never sleeps". And with regard to Mr. Travis' question as to bicycles in the "On Topic" era which were "...the beneficiaries of serious anti-corrosion treatment ... besides the use of stainless steel, and titanium", I would reluctantly add to that list the use of wood, aluminum, carbon fiber, and even plastic as materials from which framesets were once constructed.
Robert "orange you glad to know" Broderick
...the "Chronically Cloudy Clime" of Oregon
Portland, USA
> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:11:05 +0000
> From: joeb-z@comcast.net
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR] FS: 1986 3Rensho Roadbike Frameset
>
> Peugeot frames from certain years have decals stating they are "bonderized" which means a phosphate treatment, likely zinc phosphate, was applied to help with rust. It would seem likely that other frames had phosphate and chromate treatments.
>
> Joe Bender-Zanoni
> Whitneyville, CT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harry Travis" <travis.harry@gmail.com>
> To: oroboyz@aol.com
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, seaneee175@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 12:51:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR] FS: 1986 3Rensho Roadbike Frameset
>
> To the listmeister:
>
> I am happy that searching many gigabytes of emails in my accounts for the
> word "poop-loads" turns up (in seconds) just one mention; but I am chagrined
> at the location, not to mention the source!!. Who knows what attention this
> may draw, because search engines, like rust, never sleep(s). <smile>
>
> (No, Dale was not a creep for calling attention to the difference between
> the text and the photo. There is real and incipient bubbling, not just
> chipping.)
>
> But, seriously, and on topic: Have bike frames, whether fine crafted or
> assembly-line brazed, ever been the beneficiaries of serious anti-corrosion
> treatment? Besides the use of stainless steel, and titanium.
>
> Harry Travis
> Pine Barrens of NJ
> USA
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 9:44 PM, <oroboyz@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Sean:
> >
> > I hate to be a creep but this For Sale ad says:
> >
> > "Great condition. Some covered up rust spots on the top tube cable
> > guides....."
> >
> > Then I look at this picture
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/
> >
> > and it looks like a poop-load of rust and not "covered up" at all. In fact,
> > that frame is seriously rusty. Not in "Great Condition" at all...
> >
> > Of course you are not selling this, your buddy is.
> > And CR membership is is free, so why isn't he selling it himself and able
> > to respond to any challenges to his description?
> >
> > This is why I think maybe this selling of stuff here ought to be by members
> > only.
> >
> > Dale
> >
> >
> >
> > Dale Brown
> > Greensboro, North Carolina USA
> > http://www.classicrendezvous.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sean Flores <seaneee175@gmail.com>
> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > Sent: Sun, Apr 11, 2010 10:27 pm
> > Subject: [CR] FS: 1986 3Rensho Roadbike Frameset
> >
> >
> > Listing this for a friend. Please contact me off list and I will forward
> > your
> > email to him.
> >
> >
> > Up for sale is a 1986 3Rensho road bike frame and fork imported by Yellow
> > Jersey. Serial number is A474 - 545.
> >
> > Description from seller:
> >
> > "Great condition. Some covered up rust spots on the top tube cable guides.
> > Fork
> > is original, but no decals. No bb, but comes with a tange hs.
> > Shimano rear drops and fork ends."
> >
> > I know the seller quite well and he is very reputable. Was going to help
> > him
> > build this guy up, but apparently babies come before bikes. : ) Who would
> > have
> > guessed? At any rate, I'll help coordinate things if needed. I've seen
> > this
> > bike in person and it is as advertised. I also own a Rensho road bike and
> > they
> > are amazing rides if you are looking for something to put some miles on.
> > The
> > geometry is somewhere between classic italian and traditional french. Not
> > too
> > aggressive, yet not too lax. "Just Right" in a Goldielocks sorta way.
> >
> > Asking price is $700 for F/F/Headset, plus actual shipping and paypal fees.
> >
> > Pics can be seen here:
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/
> >
> > Thanks all.
> >
> > Sean Flores
> > San Francisco, CA
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Harry Travis