Re: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.


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From: "kevin sayles" <kevinsayles@tiscali.co.uk>
To: "Peter Naiman" <hetchinspete1@yahoo.com>, "Curtis Wong" <padtaiwong@hotmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 13:06:38 +0100
Cc: Tom Rawson <twrawson@comcast.net>, David Miller <hetchinscycles@aol.com>, classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, Flash <flash@flashq.de>
Subject: Re: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.


That would mean it's almost certain to have been made by my 'mentor'.....Danny Foster......incidently I was 'coaxed' back to work at Bob Jackson's in February 1987 to do the Hetchin frames.......but left after a couple of weeks without ever getting to build one....shame really.

Think the consortium that managed Jackson's was run by a chap called Jake? who I believe was a record producer to the likes of Elvis Costello!

After a few turbullent years Bob re-bought his company with the help of the present owner Donald.

cheers
Kevin Sayles
Bridgwater Somerset UK


----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Naiman"
To: "Curtis Wong"
Cc: "David Miller" ; "Tom Rawson"


<twrawson@comcast.net>; "classicrendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>; "Flash" <flash@flashq.de> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.

Curtis,

Sounds about right. Hilary Stone wrote and said this is the first frame built by the consortium that Purchased both Bob Jackson and Hetchins.

Thankyou, Peter ~~~~~~~~~~~~

Peter W. Naiman Owner: Cream City Online. Registered Ebay Sales Broker/ Trading Assistant Glendale, WI USA 53217-5034 Phone: 414-429-4362


--- On Thu, 7/1/10, Curtis Wong wrote:


From: Curtis Wong <padtaiwong@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group. To: hetchinspete1@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 2:40 AM

1986 according to the Campagnolo time line.

Curtis Wong San Francisco/Bangkok
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 00:17:57 -0700
> From: hetchinspete1@yahoo.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> CC: hetchinscycles@aol.com; flash@flashq.de; twrawson@comcast.net;
> len@nutwood30.free-online.co.uk
> Subject: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.
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> Does anyone on the list know what years Campagnolo made thier Victory
> Leisure group was produced. I found the copy of the Bicycling Magazine
> article that was written for the early Novus Ductor that I have which I
> was told was an early prototype, possibly shown at the show in New York,
> but when I purchased it I was was told it came with a triple Record group.
> Unfortunately the article from Bicycling Magazine is a bad photo copy with
> no dates on the pages. I need help dating the frame. The trouble is after
> 1968 it's more difficult to date Hetchins frames. If I know the group
> years of production, it would help me date the frame within a certain era
> and it's restoration. The frame serial number is 86003 which probably
> means it's a Bob Jackson built Hetchins from 1986 ??
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> Regards,
> Peter
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> Peter W. Naiman
> Owner: Cream City Online.
> Registered Ebay Sales Broker/ Trading Assistant
> Glendale, WI USA 53217-5034
> Phone: 414-429-4362