Re: [CR] WTB TA spindle #344 .... previously..Ode to BottomBrackets.....


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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:30:56 -0800
From: Rich Pinder <rpinder@usc.edu>
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Subject: Re: [CR] WTB TA spindle #344 .... previously..Ode to BottomBrackets.....


I'm in the same boat as Jan on the campy. The mondia had a very nice, french, campy BB intact.... And my first attempt was to bolt up the TA and hope for the best. Not even close.

Thanks Jan for this enlightenment..:
> TA and Stronglight are JIS (which really should be called French - the
> Japanese copied the French tapers and then made it their standard). Someone offered that a certain japanese spindle works great... so mebe this confirms that potential !

Ride it.. indeed, thats the ultimate goal for sure. Phil Woods though may be a bit too rich for my blood... though i'm sure they are nice. Since I've got the brand new french threaded TA cups all read to roll, i'm gonna still hunt out the elusive alxe..

thx all for your help.. we'll get er done one way or another

r

Roman Stankus wrote:
> When I purchased some TA chainrings from Mike Barry as he was closing out
> his stock of TA rings, I asked him about this same question. I was going to
> go from a Campy NR/SR double to a TA cyclotouriste double and he said it
> would work fine to just use the current campy BB/axle setup (offset 114.5mm
> axle). I haven't set that up yet to know if it works first hand, but knowing
> Mike's experienec with these matters, I trust it will. Hope this helps in
> the mix.
>
> Roman L Stankus
> Atlanta, Georgia USA
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
>> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of
>> jay hartman
>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:56 AM
>> To: Rich Pinder
>> Cc: classic
>> Subject: Re: [CR] WTB TA spindle #344 .... previously..Ode to
>> BottomBrackets.....
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Rich Pinder <rpinder@usc.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> So I took Chuck H (from Pacific Coast Cycles') advice, and rode on
>>> down to his shop in Oceanside today. I got some NOS cups
>>>
>> to fit the
>>
>>> french threaded Mondia Special frame, but no luck on the crank
>>> spindle. This is for a double TA setup - with a 28/48 gearing.
>>>
>>> From Mark B's TA documentation, the model axle I need is called 344.
>>> Length I'm told is in the 118 area.
>>> The TA version is shown here:
>>> http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/TA/BB_axle%27n%27cups.jpg
>>>
>>> It is also possible the stronglight models could be interchangeable
>>> (??) Did they use the same numbering .. having a model
>>>
>> also called 344 ?
>>
>>> If anyone has one of these they could part with, I'd love
>>>
>> to hear from
>>
>>> you !
>>>
>>> Here's a TA bottom bracket chart from Sheldon Brown's site
>>>
>> http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/images/ta-bb-axles.gif
>>
>> It lists a double as 116.5 or 120mm.
>>
>> Joel Metz's TA reference has a double with 118.5, which seems
>> to split the difference.
>>
>> http://www.blackbirdsf.org/ta/bb.html.
>>
>> Lastly, I just measured the TA 344 from my spare parts box
>> and it's only 114.5mm.
>>
>> A couple of years ago I bought a TA bottom bracket spindle
>> and chainring from Mel Pinto Imports. You might want to check
>> with them to see what they still have.
>>
>>
>> Jay Hartman
>> Montclair NJ USA