[CR] WTB Stronglight A9, Cinelli 1R/A stem etc

Example: Framebuilding:Restoration

Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:37:34 -0800
From: "P.C. Kohler" <kohl57@yahoo.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <5732.86545.qm@web110615.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Subject: [CR] WTB Stronglight A9, Cinelli 1R/A stem etc

Looking to buy for my time trial project:

Stronglight A9 headset, black anodised, English thread NOS to excellent condition

Cinelli 1R/1A black anodised stem, 26.4, 120-130 mm extension

Weinmann 500 brakeset, black anodised, prefer NOS

Campagnolo Super Record titanium PISTA pedals (can part trade for a pair of titanium SR strada pedals)

And a question prefacing a "want".... did the Roval wheelsets have their own specific skewer set? Everyone wheelset I've seen on offer (and the one I bought) seems sans skewers.

Please reply privately and many thanks

Peter Kohler
Washington DC USA

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, Steve Whitting wrote:

> From: Steve Whitting <ciocc_cat@yahoo.com>

\r?\n> Subject: Re: [CR] Respecting the Heron

\r?\n> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, "Anthony Taylor" <ajft1942@yahoo.com>, "P.C. Kohler" <kohl57@yahoo.com>

\r?\n> Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 8:03 PM

\r?\n> Well,

\r?\n> the paint and decals on my pre-1983 Ciocc San

\r?\n> Cristobal have held up just fine, but then again I'm

\r?\n> her original owner and I've taken very good care of

\r?\n> her.

\r?\n> My 1977 Raleigh Pro was a fine machine.  If

\r?\n> the dealer hadn't talked me into a frame that was two

\r?\n> inches too big, I'd probably still be riding that bike.

\r?\n>  The Campy Nuovo Record crank arms from my old Pro are

\r?\n> still in use on my Ciocc!


\r?\n> Steve Whitting


\r?\n> "The Ciocc Cat"


\r?\n> Prairieville, Louisiana USA


\r?\n> Website at http://ciocc-cat.angelfire.com/


\r?\n> --- On Mon, 2/8/10, P.C. Kohler

\r?\n> <kohl57@yahoo.com> wrote:


\r?\n> From: P.C. Kohler <kohl57@yahoo.com>

\r?\n> Subject: [CR] Respecting the Heron

\r?\n> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org, "Anthony

\r?\n> Taylor" <ajft1942@yahoo.com>

\r?\n> Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 10:35 AM


\r?\n> "Heresy - Sacrilege - and other

\r?\n> expletives!!!


\r?\n> Wonder no more Dean - they were and are great bikes


\r?\n> Where are you Peter Kohler - man the barricades there is a

\r?\n> non believer in

\r?\n> our midst!!!!


\r?\n> Mike Mullett

\r?\n> Reading UK "


\r?\n> Oh Mike, sometimes even I don't rise to the bait around

\r?\n> here. But now that you ask....


\r?\n> I don't even like the notion that to be a "plain

\r?\n> ol Raleigh" is something to be sneezed at. Show me a

\r?\n> more classic or timeless or practical bicycle than a

\r?\n> Raleigh no.1/DL-1 roadster or a Raleigh Sports. Or a

\r?\n> Lenton Sports. John Lennon rode a Lenton, not a Quinn. So

\r?\n> there!


\r?\n> But at the higher end, I'll match the workmanship of my

\r?\n> '48 RRA against ANY bespoke British frameset of its era

\r?\n> anyday. And at least it doesn't have those scrollie lugs

\r?\n> which make a racing bike look like a Victorian sewing

\r?\n> machine or bendy stays or other faddish nonsenses. Raleigh

\r?\n> chromework (theirs was the biggest chromeworks in Europe by

\r?\n> the way) was the finest in cycling or anywhere. And a stock

\r?\n> RRA with the delicious RRA specific components, all British

\r?\n> made, is a lot cooler than a British frame with a lot of

\r?\n> foreign made bits stuck on it to save a few bob in VAT. The

\r?\n> RRA pedal alone is one of the most sublimely beautiful,

\r?\n> practical and superbly made cycle component ever made. I

\r?\n> suspect a lot of clubmen distained the RRA simply because

\r?\n> they couldn't ever afford to buy one. And they sure

\r?\n> weren't clocking in time trial records

\r?\n> on one with an AC HUB gear like Booty did, now were they?



\r?\n> And I'll match the workmanship, design and weight of my

\r?\n> two SBDU frames against ANY Italian frame of the era.

\r?\n> Compare the finish, too. Heck, the headtube decal on my

\r?\n> '74 Colnago is on.. crooked for heavens sake! How many

\r?\n> Italian frames do you see with their original paint? It was

\r?\n> crap, pretty but still crap quality on almost all of them.

\r?\n> Paint you can read a newspaper through. I had paint lifted

\r?\n> off my Masi 3v with plain old tape! Not so with an SBDU

\r?\n> frame. And I won't even have you tally the race and

\r?\n> stage victories raked up by SBDU frames against ANY of their

\r?\n> era. How many framebuilders did the kind of engineering and

\r?\n> scientific tests and research the SBDU did? How many

\r?\n> framebuilders developed an entirely new frame material like

\r?\n> 753? And it was all done in house since, of course, Reynolds

\r?\n> was part of the same "rubbish" TI family.


\r?\n> Ah that feels much better now...


\r?\n> Peter

\r?\n> Kohler

\r?\n> Washington DC USA