Re: [CR] 1959 Rene Herse F&F for sale

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 21:10:33 +0100
From: "Derek Athey" <>
To: Daniel Artley <>
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Subject: Re: [CR] 1959 Rene Herse F&F for sale

Dan and Ray

I echo your sentiments entirely Dan. Ray has done a superb job in taking detailed photos of a superbly crafted frame. I have a Jack Taylor Super Tourist cycle who frame is certainly styled on the same lines. The Taylor Bros certainly emulated Rene Herse and Singer models in their own constructions. But I have to say, there are details on this Herse that leaves my Taylor behind.

I especially like the brazed cable hanger on the seat lug clip, and the threaded lugs on the seat stays, plus the chain guards on the chain stay. Nice little touches that make a good frame great!

I too think it too rich for my wallet, but one can still dream!!

Regards Derek Athey Honiton, Devon UK

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Daniel Artley <> wrote:
> What a beautiful set of photos Ray. People should take the time to look,
> even if not interested in purchase. So many closeups of a raw Rene Herse
> just gives one a good view of just how nicely the frame was detailed and
> constructed. It's my size but too rich for me to build up the way it
> deserves. I'd love to see one of those cars if they're as nice as you
> detail those bikes of yours. Any chance we'll be seeing you at Cirque?
> With a bike strapped to a Brit classic?
> Happy trails,
> Dan Artley in Parkton, Maryland
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> Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:44:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Ray Homiski <velocipede(AT)
>>Subject: [CR] 1959 Rene Herse F&F for sale (
>;SearchPrefix=%40msgsubject&amp;SortBy=MsgDate%5Ba%5D)I purchased this several years ago with the intent to restore. Since I am
> now doing Brit cars, I can use the funds for that project. You will be able
> to get a genuine RH F&F without international shipping charges and customs
> duties and taxes. The frame is a 60cm seat tube with a 57.5 top tube all
> measured C to C. You can see all of the detail better than I can explain in
> the photos within the attached link. When I received the bike from France it
> had the derailleur hanger damaged but I had it repaired. You can see that
> detail in the photos. The F&F has been stripped as it was a bad repaint and
> I was going to hav
> e it repainted. You can now restore it to your specifications. After
> stripping I was told that the bike may have been tweaked so I took several
> photos with a straight edge against the down tube so you can judge for
> yourself. I purchased it as an undamaged F&F but the hanger was damaged in
> transit due to poor packaging. You can ask all the questions you need to
> ask, I can take any detailed photos you would want to see. As you can see
> the serial number on the frame and fork match and there is no filler, you
> can see the bare frame with all of its finer detailed brazing. I am asking
> $1695 shipped, so there you have it. A genuine Rene Herse F&F for sale here
> on the CR list. As always, a money back guarantee within 30 days if not
> satisfied. Feel free to contact me with any questions.
> Cheers Ray Homiski Elizabeth,
> NJ 908-355-2978