Re: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.


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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:33:05 +0100
From: Hilary Stone <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: Peter Naiman <hetchinspete1@yahoo.com>
References: <536352.67076.qm@web111701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <536352.67076.qm@web111701.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Cc: Tom Rawson <twrawson@comcast.net>, David Miller <hetchinscycles@aol.com>, classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, Flash <flash@flashq.de>
Subject: Re: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.


The Campag Victory group was available from late 1984 - the incorrect date is often suggested but that is because some of the 18bis catalogues are dated December 1986 rather than 1985...

Hilary Stone, Bristol, British Isles

Peter Naiman wrote:
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> Sounds about right. Hilary Stone wrote and said this is the first frame built by the consortium that Purchased both Bob Jackson and Hetchins.
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> Thankyou,
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> --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Curtis Wong <padtaiwong@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> From: Curtis Wong <padtaiwong@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.
> To: hetchinspete1@yahoo.com
> Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 2:40 AM
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> 1986 according to the Campagnolo time line.
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> Curtis Wong
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>> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 00:17:57 -0700
>> From: hetchinspete1@yahoo.com
>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> CC: hetchinscycles@aol.com; flash@flashq.de; twrawson@comcast.net; len@nutwood30.free-online.co.uk
>> Subject: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.
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>> Does anyone on the list know what years Campagnolo made thier Victory Leisure group was produced. I found the copy of the Bicycling Magazine article that was written for the early Novus Ductor that I have which I was told was an early prototype, possibly shown at the show in New York, but when I purchased it I was was told it came with a triple Record group. Unfortunately the article from Bicycling Magazine is a bad photo copy with no dates on the pages. I need help dating the frame. The trouble is after 1968 it's more difficult to date Hetchins frames. If I know the group years of production, it would help me date the frame within a certain era and it's restoration. The frame serial number is 86003 which probably means it's a Bob Jackson built Hetchins from 1986 ??
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>> Owner: Cream City Online.
>> Registered Ebay Sales Broker/ Trading Assistant
>> Glendale, WI USA 53217-5034
>> Phone: 414-429-4362