Re: [CR] Uhoh..urago on ebay

(Example: Framebuilding:Brazing Technique)

Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:44:47 -0800 (PST)
From: "jeffrey piwonka" <jmpiwonka@yahoo.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <002001cbcfac$26362bc0$72a28340$@com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Uhoh..urago on ebay


yeah it happens...probably alot more common to bikes that actually get ridden...or kept outside.

check out sasha's nagasawa... http://www.flickr.com/photos/sashae/sets/72157621171293064/

Jeff Piwonka
Austin, Texas USA


--- On Fri, 2/18/11, Steve Birmingham wrote:


> From: Steve Birmingham <sbirmingham@mindspring.com>

\r?\n> Subject: Re: [CR] Uhoh..urago on ebay

\r?\n> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

\r?\n> Date: Friday, February 18, 2011, 2:40 PM

\r?\n> I've seen it, a couple times, but

\r?\n> there was always some extra influence.

\r?\n> First one, an early 80's Univega. - went to fix it up for a

\r?\n> friend and when

\r?\n> I removed the ducktape from the toptube the tube looked

\r?\n> like it had burst.

\r?\n> Plenty of rust, But I suspect frozen water actually did in

\r?\n> the weakened

\r?\n> tube.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Seccond one, Early70's Motobecane. Cracked in front of the

\r?\n> seatlug. Thinned

\r?\n> from rust, but cracked from too much twisting from how he

\r?\n> rode. The rust

\r?\n> would have gotten that one eventually.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Third one rusted through chainstay. Forget the bike. had

\r?\n> some bad wheel rub

\r?\n> at one point that wasn't touched up and it rusted through.

\r?\n>

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Not exactly what was described, and all began with some

\r?\n> level of abuse.

\r?\n> Outdoor winter storage was the common thing, and I believe

\r?\n> at least 2 of the

\r?\n> 3 were ridden in winter on salty roads and never cleaned.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Fortunately none of them were high end bikes.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Steve Birmingham

\r?\n> Lowell, Massachusetts

\r?\n> USA

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Message: 12

\r?\n> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:20:38 -0800

\r?\n> From: Kurt Sperry <haxixe@gmail.com>

\r?\n> Subject: Re: [CR] Uhoh..urago on ebay

\r?\n> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

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\r?\n> How many people here have personally as opposed to it

\r?\n> happening to a

\r?\n> friend, cousin etc. had classic steel frames experience an

\r?\n> actual

\r?\n> structural failure due solely to rust?  I've never

\r?\n> seen or heard of it

\r?\n> happening but have learned not to put much weight in my own

\r?\n> narrow

\r?\n> anecdotal experience.  If Fraysee is anywhere close to

\r?\n> correct there

\r?\n> should be hundreds or more probably thousands of such tales

\r?\n> out there

\r?\n> to be related by list members.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> How about a show of hands?

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Kurt Sperry

\r?\n> Bellingham, Washington

\r?\n> USA