{Classic Rendezvous} Need help identifying builder of Chiorda frameset ?

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I need help identifying a frame that's been sitting in my rafters for that past five years. It's a Chiorda that was repainted by the previous owner, please review the photo's below. I know the Chiorda racing team frames were never built by the Chiorda and this frame looks very different to a factory made Chiorda, those seems reserved to made with stove pipe tubing. Could this be a Salvarani pro team frame from the early seventies or something else? I'm curious who made the frame? Bianchi? I read somewhere that the team owner of Salvarani was also the owner of Bianchi and allowed the team riders to have there frames made by the builder of there choice. So far, I read Bianchi, De Rosa...etc were making them but there's hundreds of framemakers in Italy. Can anyone identify the builder?

The Chiorda Gimondi frameset in orange, 55cm C/C square, 56cm ST-C/T. Chainstay 420mm, rear axle width: 122mm. Fork ends & rear ends are both Campy

Any clew to who made the lugs? The inside fork tangs are very long and with a heart cut-out.

The frame seems to be built with nice lug work much nicer than the Chiorda's sold in the US, a lot of the lug work has heart cut-out's on them and the BB has three large holes drilled in the bottom of it. The Frame was repainted by M/B (?) in '98 with a very thick Imaron looking paint and the decals sadly appear to be on the outside but the seatstays end caps have them engraved/raised with Chiorda but the white hand rendered repaint over them did not highlight/show them very well. It looks very similar to the one shown on Classic Rendezvous website Chiordra Pro sample pic. (http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/Chiorda_bik1.htm)

I'm trying also to figure out which year it came from as it has bottle bosses on the frame but nothing else except for a cable boss at the end of the chainstay. The bottle bosses could have been added during the repaint as I think water bosses came later in the late 70's along with other braze-on's. I think the frame saver paint inside and the unsteady thick white detail paint does hide/mask a bit of the quality that does not show in the photo's. The frame does look nice in person though.

I appreciate any info or insight on this frameset.

Thanks for the help,

Macgee Davidson

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Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I need help identifying a frame that's been sitting in my rafte= rs for that past five years. It's a Chiorda that was repainted by the previ= ous owner, please review the photo's below. I know the Chiorda racing = team frames were never built by the Chiorda and this frame looks very diffe= rent to a factory made Chiorda, those seems reserved to made with stove pip= e tubing. Could this be a Salvarani pro team frame from the early seve= nties or something else? I'm curious who made the frame? Bianchi? I read so= mewhere that the team owner of Salvarani was also the owner of Bianchi and = allowed the team riders to have there frames made by the builder of there c= hoice. So far, I read Bianchi, De Rosa...etc were making them but there's h= undreds of framemakers in Italy. Can anyone identify the builder?

The Chiorda Gimondi frameset in orange, 55cm C/C square, 56cm ST-C/T. Cha= instay 420mm, rear axle width: 122mm. Fork ends & rear ends are  b= oth Campy

Any clew to who made the lugs? The inside fork tangs are v= ery long and with a heart cut-out.

The frame seems to be built with = nice lug work much nicer than the Chiorda's sold in the US, a lot of the lu= g work has heart cut-out's on them and the BB has three large holes drilled= in the bottom of it. The Frame was repainted by M/B (?) in '98 with a very= thick Imaron looking paint and the decals sadly appear to be on the outsid= e but the seatstays end caps have them engraved/raised with Chiorda but the= white hand rendered repaint over them did not highlight/show them very wel= l. It looks very similar to the one shown on Classic Rendezvous website Chi= ordra Pro sample pic.
(http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/Chiorda_bik1= .htm)

I'm trying also to figure out which year it came from as i= t has bottle bosses on the frame but nothing else except for a cable boss a= t the end of the chainstay. The bottle bosses could have been added during = the repaint as I think water bosses came later in the late 70's along with = other braze-on's. I think the frame saver paint inside and the unsteady thi= ck white detail paint does hide/mask a bit of the quality that does not sho= w in the photo's. The frame does look nice in person though.

I appre= ciate any info or insight on this frameset. 
Thanks for the help,

Macgee Davidson
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