Re: {Classic Rendezvous} Campag HF Hubs vs. Spoke X-ings ?

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I don't know how you can say "they do amazingly well" if something is not by design. There is not a wheelbuilder in the world who would ever recommend the practice of spokes touching adjacent spoke heads. Sometimes bad ideas survive, but that's about it.

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Dale Brown <dalebbrown@gmail.com> wrote:
> John wrote:
> <<Dont'r recommend 4x as the spokes will touch adjacent spoke heads>>
>
> Actually quite a few On Topic bikes came with wheels using 4X on High
> Flange hubs. Despite over lapping spokes, etc. they do amazingly well...
>
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:41 PM, John Businger <jbusinger@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dont'r recommend 4x as the spokes will touch adjacent spoke heads. 2x not
>> recommended either as you will not achieve true tangential spoking
>> (push/pill). Radial will work as long as you maintain even and maximum
>> tension.
>>
>> John Businger,
>> Brookline, MA
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:01 PM, <mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net> wrote:
>>
>>> 2x, 3x, 4x are fine.
>>>
>>> Don't recommend radial because of the damage risks involved...
>>>
>>> =8-)
>>>
>>> Robert Shackelford
>>> San Jose, CA USA
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Richard Cielec <teaat4p@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> > Ahoy !
>>> > Re: Campag High Flange hubs, NR/SR, Tipo, 1970's- End of Time Line
>>> > I am asking for reason of my definite ignorance of the physics and
>>> > stresses placed upon hub flanges.
>>> >
>>> > Are radial and 2X crossings compatible with these high flange hubs 32H
>>> > and 36H ? Assumption is that hubs are in good condition, of course.
>>> > Application would be road riding, not racing. Clilncher and tubular
>>> > rims. Rider weight approx. 140 lbs.
>>> >
>>> > Thank you
>>> >
>>> > Richard Cielec
>>> > Chicago, Illinois; U.S.A.
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Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know how you can say "they do amazingly well" if some= thing is not by design. There is not a wheelbuilder in the world who would = ever recommend the practice of spokes touching adjacent spoke heads. =A0Som= etimes bad ideas survive, but that's about it.

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Dale Brown = <dalebbrown@gm= ail.com> wrote:
John wrote:
<<Dont'r recommend 4x as the spokes wi= ll touch adjacent spoke heads>>

Actually quite a few On Topic bikes came wi= th wheels using 4X on High Flange hubs. Despite over lapping spokes, etc. t= hey do amazingly well...=A0

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:41 P= M, John Businger <jbusinger@gmail.com> wrote:
Dont'r recommend 4x as the spokes will touch adjacent spoke heads. 2x n= ot recommended either as you will not achieve true tangential spoking (push= /pill). Radial will work as long as you maintain even and maximum tension.<= div>
John Businger,
Brookline, MA

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:01 PM, <mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net<= /a>> wrote:
2x, 3x, 4x are fine.

Don't recommend radial because of the damage risks involved...

=3D8-)

Robert Shackelford
San Jose, CA USA


Quoting Richard Cielec <
teaat4p@gmail.com>:

> Ahoy !
> Re: Campag High Flange hubs, NR/SR, Tipo, 1970's- End of Time Line=
> I am asking for reason of my definite ignorance of the physics and
> stresses placed upon hub flanges.
>
> Are radial and 2X crossings compatible with these high flange hubs 32H=
> and 36H ? Assumption is that hubs are in good condition, of course. > Application would be road riding, not racing. Clilncher and tubular > rims. =A0Rider weight approx. 140 lbs.
>
> Thank you
>
> Richard Cielec
> Chicago, Illinois; U.S.A.
>
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