Re: [CR] is this a high end or a low end Louison Bobet

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From: "Kurt Sperry" <haxixe@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:54:02 -0800
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] is this a high end or a low end Louison Bobet


Does anyone have a date for the renaming of MAFAC Dural Forge to Racer brakes?

Kurt Sperry Bellingham, Washington USA

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Arno Volkers <arnovolkers@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> thanks for the information Chas,
>
> this keeps me from buying this bike, it costs 30 dollars but if it's really crappy
> i'm not buying it!
>
>
> Arno Volkers
> bredestraat 37
> 2000 Antwerpen
>
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>> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:51:13 -0800
>> From: verktyg@aol.com
>> To: arnovolkers@hotmail.com; Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Subject: Re: [CR] is this a high end or a low end  Louison Bobet
>>
>> This appears to be an early bike boom model from the very late 60s to
>> early 70s. Many French bike makers produced amateur racing models which
>> were basically their entry level bikes with racing geometry frames and
>> sewups. The Gitane Interclub and Peugeot PA10 were examples of this.
>>
>> There doesn't appear to be any kind of tubing sticker on the frame. This
>>   usually indicates that the bike is made with "gas pipe" or lightweight
>> gas pipe tubing. The seat post diameters on these kinds of frames were
>> under 26mm.
>>
>> The Simplex ref 881-881B forged rear dropout were their least expensive
>> models and lacked an integral derailleur hanger. The front derailleur is
>> the standard Huret model that was also supplied with the Allvit derailleurs.
>>
>> The silver painted "socks" on the forks and rear stays were inexpensive
>> attempts to make the bike appear to have chrome plating.
>>
>> It might be a nice riding bike but all of the components are low end.
>>
>> Chas. Colerich
>> Oakland, CA USA
>>
>> Arno Volkers wrote:
>> > i'm curious if this is a high end or low end Louison Bobet,
>> > okay, it has some crappy parts like the svelto derailleur and the succes front derailleur,
>> > but it also has got mafac dual forge brakes, ava rims and maybe gnutti hubs, but i'm
>> > not shure of that. the dropouts say "juy Simplex" and they look like quality to me,
>> > but i'm not really into french bikes, that's why is ask the experts (you).
>> >
>> > I havent got more pictures, this is what the seller gave me by mail, does anybody
>> > recognize the model? please give me some info
>> >
>> > http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/Arno/Louison+Bobet/
>> >
>> > regards
>> >
>> > Arno Volkers
>> > bredestraat 37
>> > 2000 Antwerpen
>>
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