Re: [CR] Proper weight distribution?

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:18:32 -0500
From: "Ken Freeman" <kenfreeman096@gmail.com>
To: Harry Travis <travis.harry@gmail.com>
Cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Proper weight distribution?


I don't know how large a spread between CS lengths is regarded as "the same." My 1980 53 cm Masi has 40.5, and my early '80s 53 cm Mondonico has 41.5. They don't ride the same, but I doubt that is strictly a function of the chainstays.

BB drop also introduces a different perspective, when trying to eyeball the chainstays.

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Harry Travis <travis.harry@gmail.com>wrote:
> Just look at photos of the gap between the rear tire and the seat-tube. You
> can assume the mounted tire is 23mm +- 2mm.
> Even without looking at specs in catalogs, you can see clearances are
> minimal, so 410-415mm is a common chain-stay length.
>
> Seat-tube angle variation introduces error in the eyeball estimate, but
> given where the tube would be tangent to the tire, that error is minimal.
> If
> I could predict stocks prices as well as anyone can estimate chainstay
> length this way, I'd own some of the fine bikes under discussion.
>
> Harry Travis
> Pine Barrens of NJ
> USA
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Joe Starck <josephbstarck@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > --- On Fri, 1/21/11, Ken Wehrenberg <wnwires@htc.net> wrote:
> >
> > > In reality, there is another way to go this direction of
> > > forward weighting the bike a bit and that is to move the
> > > center of gravity forward by positioning the rear wheel
> > > backwards more with long chainstays. That is how my
> > > other favorite handling bike, a subsequently-acquireed
> > > vintage Eisentraut, did it.
> >
> > Around 1987 Billato of Italy made a change in chainstay length, of an
> extra
> > 1/2 centimeter, or centimeter. Billato said the change arose from the
> > peloton. I can't recall all the importers of the Billatos. Can you? To
> wit,
> > have chainstay lengths gotten longer since the late 80s?
> >
> > Joe Starck
> > Madison, Wisconsin USA
> >
> >
> >
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Ken Freeman
Ann Arbor, MI USA