Re: [CR] Was silk/seta tubular ride, now tubulars in the wet

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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:04:00 -0600
From: "earle.young" <>
To: John <>,
Subject: Re: [CR] Was silk/seta tubular ride, now tubulars in the wet


You got the right start with " us both a pair of nos Seta Extras. You mount yours on Earle built wheels, I'll mount min on Pergo wheels. ... "

But opposite directions? John, I want to ride with you. Riding in company is a good thing.

In the rain? What if I am right, and an hour in the rain causes those tires to balloon out to 33 millimeters or more? Better to ride them on sunny, smooth pavement and keep them for many such rides!

Beers? Yeah, Baby! Wisconsin has a plethora of rides that go to good breweries and/or brew pubs. My local bar 'n' grill serves great burgers, the best Reuben sandwiches in the city and has a couple of local brews on tap. It's also really close to some great riding.

John, you are welcome any time, even without the silks, as are any CR listers.

Earle "remember the final E" Young Madison, Wisconsin

8 AM, John <> wrote:
> Earl,
> O.K....
> I think we need to settle this like men;
> Josh "Cino" Burger gives us both a pair of norubens Seta Extras. You mount
> yours on Earl built wheels, I'll mount mine Pergo wheels. We ride in
> opposite directions, in the rain, minimum 1 hour. We have a few beers and
> then we measure the tires.
> Duel?
> Funny thing is we coulda done that at L'Eroica this year. Although
> it would have been in the same direction and wine. That would be fine too!
> You in Josh?
> So what were saying is that wet silk expands ALLOT more then wet
> cotton, aye?
> enjoy,
> Johnny Pergolizzi
> Torino, Italy
> where the kilometers today were on a the L'Eroica lavender 72 Colnago in
> pea soup fog.
> On Jan 2, 2011, at 2:19 PM, earle.young wrote:
> My one experience with silks in heavy rain contradicts John Pergolizzi. On
>> RAAM 19874 (with fully on-topic equipment), Elaine Mariolle was riding a
>> pair of well aged Criterium Seta Extra's. In Las Vegas, of all places, we
>> hit rain that was rim-deep all across the road. I had been sleeping when we
>> hit the rain, and she had been riding for an hour or more with the tubulars
>> soaked. When I checked them, they had stretched to the size of del Mondos!
>> That had confirmed the conventional knowledge of the time: Don't ride
>> silks in the rain.
>> And then there are the early nylon tires. Even a sprinkle was enough to
>> make the 230 gram Raleigh/Panasonic nylon tires of the late '70s and early
>> 80's treacherously slippery.
>> Earle Young
>> Madison, Wisconsin
>> Offering expert wheelbuilding services for classic and modern bicycles