Regarding the fenders, I think it was common for a racer to own one bike, and run it fenderless for summer racing, and then add fenders for winter or as needed.
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Robert Troy <bobbymtroy@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> Josh, Jim, and list,
> I'll throw in my tuppence before this query gets too old. I certainly
> won't speculate on Signore Cinelli's intent, but the early 60s Cinelli
> catalog lists both the Super Corsa and Model B as "Road Racing Frame Sets."
>
> The SC features full Columbus tubing (SL/SP) or "at request with 3
> triangle-tubes Reynold 531," with no mention of tubing for rear stays or
> fork tubing. Fork ends are "Campagnolo Gran Sport."
>
> The "type B" features triangle-tubes Columbus, fork blades and rear stays
> tubing FALCK with fork ends Campagnolo Gran Sport or forged standard fork
> ends."
>
> I've recently acquired both an SC and a Mod. B. I believe that both are
> in the '62-'63 range and are the same size. I haven't fully dismantled both
> yet, so can't provide any info. regarding relative weight. Both frames
> appear to have similar head and seat tube angles (relaxed). Being a former
> English Major that loathed geometry, I haven't seen a protractor in years.
> But, maybe I'll take a trip to Walgreen's one of these days and pick up a
> plastic cheapo model and give it a whirl.
>
> As my Mod. B is an Altenburger model with Altenburger rear dropouts, exact
> comparison of wheelbases is a bit of a guess, but it appears that the Mod.
> B's wheelbase is almost 2 cm longer, with most of the extra length coming
> from the rear stays.
>
> I managed to get the SC cobbled together for a couple rides before winter
> set in on Chicago, but have only taken a very gentle roll around the Mod. B
> (spokes were on verge of rusty collapse), so I can't really comment on
> comparative ride quality (other than to say that both were very well behaved
> and left big smiles on my face). Both bikes feature braze-ons for fenders,
> but I wouldn't guess that either was intended to tour. Was the Mod. B a
> sport-tourer in comparison to the SC? Might be. But, I'm betting that both
> are pretty comfortable for longer rides, particularly when compared to later
> Cinellis.
>
> As usual, I have too many projects in the basement and far too little time
> to work on them. But, with any luck (and a little help from some local list
> members), I should have the Mod. B ready to roll in time for Spring. Once
> they're both broken in, I'll be sure to snap some photos and give a full
> ride report.
>
> Any builders or persons with first-hand experience want to weigh in here?
> I'm definitelyy just making guesses here, and there are at least a few list
> members who have both models.
>
> If anyone has more interest in the Cinelli tubing or components, I'd highly
> recommend picking up the repro from Velo Retro. It's well worth the price
> of admission (for the great handlebar info. alone).
>
> Sorry that $.02 doesn't buy what it used to.
>
> Hope that we all get some decent riding weather soon,
>
> Bob Troy
> Chicago, IL
>
>
>
> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 09:24:37 -0800
> > From: Jim Merz <jameshmerz@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CR] Was the Cinelli Model B intended for touring? (Josh
> > Berger)
> > To: Cino1947@aol.com
> > Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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> > As far as I know the Italians disdain anything to do with bicycle
> touring. I
> > think the B was just a lower price point. No reason either model could
> not
> > be used for touring though.
> >
> > Jim Merz
> > Big Sur CA
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:18 AM, <Cino1947@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The Cinelli Model B was a lower priced model than the Supercorsa-
> probably
> > > because of the use of lower end components.But was the B also intended
> more
> > > for touring than the SC- slacker angles, flat fork crown allowing for
> > > better shock absorption than a sloping crown, etc.? Or was the B also
> > > considered a racing bike?
> > > This would make it a situation similar to the Raleigh Pro vs. their
> > > International. The International had slacker angles and longer
> wheelbase.
> > > l
> > > Josh Berger
> > > Bronx, NY
> > > USA
> > > _cino1947@aol.com_ (mailto:cino1947@aol.com)
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