Re: [CR] Old Vs. New: Ken Carpenter Masi's

(Example: Framebuilders:Bernard Carré)

Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 17:16:22 -0800 (PST)
From: "Joe Starck" <josephbstarck@yahoo.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <OFC35A8286.4CC36D90-ON8625780A.0051D457-8525780A.005428C9@smtpgate.us.hsbc>
Cc: stephen.p.kinne@hsbcpb.com
Subject: Re: [CR] Old Vs. New: Ken Carpenter Masi's



--- On Fri, 12/31/10, stephen.p.kinne@hsbcpb.com wrote:


> Two of Carpenters track frames sold
> on eBay a couple of years ago.  The
> first had a 68 or 70cm seat tube to top of seat lug with a
> second seat lug
> and horizontal top tube at the 57 or 59CM seat tube
> intersection point . I
> recall the seatstays were brazed at that 57MM seat/top tube
> intersection.
> It had been resprayed one of those 80's goofy fluorescent
> fade jobs that
> looked oh-so-cool for about a year before  being
> rendered hopelessly
> unfashionable for eternity.  It had "KC" stamped in
> the serial number on
> the bottom bracket.  As Joe Stark pointed out, it was
> Gran Criterium like
> with traditional lugs and standard tubing.  A number
> of months later a
> second frame traded on eBay with similar geometry, but that
> one had 3V
> lugs.

I don't recall making a double-top-tubed frame for Carptenter. Nor do I recall making a 3V frame for Carpenter.

Joe Starck
Madison, Wisconsin USA