Actually, the spokes DON'T cross heads on a 36h high flange hub when laced 4x. See attached photo. It's also about as close to tangential as you can get (within a degree or two IIRC.)
They will on a 36h low flange hub though, and on a 32h high flange hub too.
I agree with everyone else who recommends NOT lacing radial. Bad idea.
Greg Reiche CyclArt, Inc. Vista, CA USA shop@cyclart.com
From: classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles@googlegroups.com [mailto:classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Businger Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 12:41 PM To: classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: {Classic Rendezvous} Campag HF Hubs vs. Spoke X-ings ?
Dont'r recommend 4x as the spokes will touch adjacent spoke heads. 2x not recommended either as you will not achieve true tangential spoking (push/pill). Radial will work as long as you maintain even and maximum tension.
John Businger, Brookline, MA On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:01 PM, <mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net<mailto:mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net>> wrote: 2x, 3x, 4x are fine.
Don't recommend radial because of the damage risks involved...
=8-)
Robert Shackelford San Jose, CA USA
Quoting Richard Cielec <teaat4p@gmail.com<mailto:teaat4p@gmail.com>>:
> Ahoy !
> Re: Campag High Flange hubs, NR/SR, Tipo, 1970's- End of Time Line
> I am asking for reason of my definite ignorance of the physics and
> stresses placed upon hub flanges.
>
> Are radial and 2X crossings compatible with these high flange hubs 32H
> and 36H ? Assumption is that hubs are in good condition, of course.
> Application would be road riding, not racing. Clilncher and tubular
> rims. Rider weight approx. 140 lbs.
>
> Thank you
>
> Richard Cielec
> Chicago, Illinois; U.S.A.
>
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Actually,=
the spokes DON'T cross heads on a 36h high flange hub when laced 4x. See a=
ttached photo. It's also about as close to tangential as you can get (withi=
n a degree or two IIRC.)
<= o:p>
They will on a 36h l=
ow flange hub though, and on a 32h high flange hub too.
I agree with everyone else who recommends NOT lacing radial. Bad=
idea.
Greg Reiche
CyclArt, Inc.
Vista, CA USA
s=
hop@cyclart.com
From: classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles@googlegroups.=
com [mailto:classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles@googlegroups.co=
m] On Behalf Of John Businger
Sent: Wednesday, February 23=
, 2011 12:41 PM
To: classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycl=
es@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: {Classic Rendezvous} Campag HF H=
ubs vs. Spoke X-ings ?
Dont'r recommend 4x as the spokes wil=
l touch adjacent spoke heads. 2x not recommended either as you will not ach=
ieve true tangential spoking (push/pill). Radial will work as long as you m=
aintain even and maximum tension.
<= o:p>
John Businger,
Brookl=
ine, MA
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:0=
1 PM, <mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net> wrote:
2x, 3x, 4x are fine.
Don't recommend radial because of the damag=
e risks involved...
=3D8-)
Robert Shackelford
San Jose, CA=
USA
Quoting Richard Cielec <teaat4p@gmail.com>:
> Ahoy !
> Re: Campag High =
Flange hubs, NR/SR, Tipo, 1970's- End of Time Line
> I am asking for =
reason of my definite ignorance of the physics and
> stresses placed =
upon hub flanges.
>
> Are radial and 2X crossings compatible wi=
th these high flange hubs 32H
> and 36H ? Assumption is that hubs are=
in good condition, of course.
> Application would be road riding, no=
t racing. Clilncher and tubular
> rims. Rider weight approx. 14=
0 lbs.
>
> Thank you
>
> Richard Cielec
> Chi=
cago, Illinois; U.S.A.
>
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Actually, the spokes DON'T cross heads on a 36h high flange hub when laced 4x. See attached photo. It's also about as close to tangential as you can get (within a degree or two IIRC.)
They will on a 36h low flange hub though, and on a 32h high flange hub too.
I agree with everyone else who recommends NOT lacing radial. Bad idea.
Greg Reiche CyclArt, Inc. Vista, CA USA shop@cyclart.com
From: classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles@googlegroups.com [mailto:classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Businger Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 12:41 PM To: classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: {Classic Rendezvous} Campag HF Hubs vs. Spoke X-ings ?
Dont'r recommend 4x as the spokes will touch adjacent spoke heads. 2x not recommended either as you will not achieve true tangential spoking (push/pill). Radial will work as long as you maintain even and maximum tension.
John Businger, Brookline, MA On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:01 PM, <mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net<mailto:mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net>> wrote: 2x, 3x, 4x are fine.
Don't recommend radial because of the damage risks involved...
=8-)
Robert Shackelford San Jose, CA USA
Quoting Richard Cielec <teaat4p@gmail.com<mailto:teaat4p@gmail.com>>:
> Ahoy !
> Re: Campag High Flange hubs, NR/SR, Tipo, 1970's- End of Time Line
> I am asking for reason of my definite ignorance of the physics and
> stresses placed upon hub flanges.
>
> Are radial and 2X crossings compatible with these high flange hubs 32H
> and 36H ? Assumption is that hubs are in good condition, of course.
> Application would be road riding, not racing. Clilncher and tubular
> rims. Rider weight approx. 140 lbs.
>
> Thank you
>
> Richard Cielec
> Chicago, Illinois; U.S.A.
>
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Actually,=
the spokes DON'T cross heads on a 36h high flange hub when laced 4x. See a=
ttached photo. It's also about as close to tangential as you can get (withi=
n a degree or two IIRC.)
<= o:p>
They will on a 36h l=
ow flange hub though, and on a 32h high flange hub too.
I agree with everyone else who recommends NOT lacing radial. Bad=
idea.
Greg Reiche
CyclArt, Inc.
Vista, CA USA
s=
hop@cyclart.com
From: classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles@googlegroups.=
com [mailto:classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles@googlegroups.co=
m] On Behalf Of John Businger
Sent: Wednesday, February 23=
, 2011 12:41 PM
To: classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycl=
es@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: {Classic Rendezvous} Campag HF H=
ubs vs. Spoke X-ings ?
Dont'r recommend 4x as the spokes wil=
l touch adjacent spoke heads. 2x not recommended either as you will not ach=
ieve true tangential spoking (push/pill). Radial will work as long as you m=
aintain even and maximum tension.
<= o:p>
John Businger,
Brookl=
ine, MA
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:0=
1 PM, <mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net> wrote:
2x, 3x, 4x are fine.
Don't recommend radial because of the damag=
e risks involved...
=3D8-)
Robert Shackelford
San Jose, CA=
USA
Quoting Richard Cielec <teaat4p@gmail.com>:
> Ahoy !
> Re: Campag High =
Flange hubs, NR/SR, Tipo, 1970's- End of Time Line
> I am asking for =
reason of my definite ignorance of the physics and
> stresses placed =
upon hub flanges.
>
> Are radial and 2X crossings compatible wi=
th these high flange hubs 32H
> and 36H ? Assumption is that hubs are=
in good condition, of course.
> Application would be road riding, no=
t racing. Clilncher and tubular
> rims. Rider weight approx. 14=
0 lbs.
>
> Thank you
>
> Richard Cielec
> Chi=
cago, Illinois; U.S.A.
>
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