Re: [CR] shoes for clips/straps & TA ref 40 cleats

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Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 10:13:19 -0400
From: <joebz@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CR] shoes for clips/straps & TA ref 40 cleats
In-reply-to: <011601c657e8$a5be7730$24ce2ba2@corp.rfweston.com>
To: "Charles T. Young" <youngc@ptd.net>
References: <44325184.6020508@optusnet.com.au>
cc: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
cc: Classic Rendezvous

I'm as nostalgic as anyone but nail on, non-adjustable cleats are for the birds in my opinion. They lead to not getting the angle right which leads to knee problems. I can't remember how many times I went through the establish a line and try and get some cobbler to get them on right routine. I'm sure Harvey is more skilled, but getting them ergonomically correct is a very tricky business that goes beyond even getting the cleats on that line.

Maybe the leather ones are more forgiving, but adjustable cleats and Fit-Kit fitting were two innovations I grabbed and never looked back.

I also like the dear departed Sidis with just the ribbed soles for a touring type shoe.

Joe Bender-Zanoni
Great Notch, Nj


----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles T. Young"
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 09:06:00 -0000
Subject: Re: [CR] shoes for clips/straps & TA ref 40 cleats


> Those look fine. I'd suggest having the local cobbler fit a small

\r?\n> heel to

\r?\n> protect the shoe for light walking about. I'd take it one step

\r?\n> further and

\r?\n> also have the cobbler (or Harvey Sachs if he's in the

\r?\n> neighborhood) fit the

\r?\n> TA leather touring ref 40 "modele turino" cleats. As I recall, you

\r?\n> are a

\r?\n> woodworker, so this would be very straight forward for you, you'll

\r?\n> simplyneed to clinch nail them on yourself You can see them at

\r?\n> Joel Metz'

\r?\n> wonderful TA pages:

\r?\n>

\r?\n> http://www.blackbirdsf.org/ta/

\r?\n>

\r?\n> http://www.blackbirdsf.org/ta/ref40.html

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Best to ride the shoes for a spell to establish the best line for

\r?\n> the cleat

\r?\n> positioning as the rear of the quill pedal cage leaves an indent.

\r?\n> While I

\r?\n> haven't tried it yet, these cleats would not be difficult for a

\r?\n> cobbler to

\r?\n> duplicate. They consist of a thin piece of steel with two leather

\r?\n> wedgesglued down.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> I'm a bit lazy; anyone have one or two pairs of factory-made TA

\r?\n> cleats to

\r?\n> sell? I've several shoes that could use them. Harv, why don't you

\r?\n> fab me a

\r?\n> prototype or two?

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Charlie Young

\r?\n> Honey Brook, PA

\r?\n>

\r?\n> p.s. You could always just wear a pair of think soled wingtips,

\r?\n> that has a

\r?\n> style all its own... Yo, Pergolizzi, what's your call?

\r?\n>

\r?\n> P. Lynn Miller asked:

\r?\n> ----- Original Message -----

\r?\n> > I found these - eBay - Item number: 7230533313 - Anyone know

\r?\n> anything> about these or have used this shoe? They may be a bit

\r?\n> too vintage. But I

\r?\n> > am looking for shoes with laces. No velcro or ratchets.

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > Thanks,

\r?\n> >

\r?\n> > --

\r?\n> > P. Lynn Miller

\r?\n> > Sydney, Australia