Re: [CR]Re: Ciocc pronunciation

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From: "Martin Appel" <martin@camelot.de>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Ciocc pronunciation
To: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>, CR RENDEZVOUS <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:30:32 +0100
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It is always hard to write thiese things with an ordinary alphabete, as the pronounciation of the consonants and vowels differs between languages. I would write it "Tschötsch" in German :) Best would be to write it down in IPA which is designed for stuff like this, alas i'm not even amateur level at these things. i tried my luck with an IPA "typewriter" i found on the web, and the output looks like this:

t\u0283\u0276t\u0283

hope the characters make it thru all this encoding :)

Martin Appel Munich, Germany

Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> schrieb:
>I just listened Martin, and it sounds like how this sounds when
>written?
>
>" cho - cha "
>
>Chuck Schmidt
>South Pasadena, Southern California
>United States of America
>www.velo-retro.com (reprints, t-shirts & timelines)
>
>
>
>
>
>On Oct 29, 2006, at 1:08 PM, Martin Appel wrote:
>
>> Nope, more like "George" with a more accented second "ch"...
>> please see, erm listen to
>> http://www.mappel.de/sound/bike_brands.mp3
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Martin Appel
>> Munich, Germany
>>
>> "Kurt Sperry" <haxixe@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>> Rhymes with "roach".
>>>
>>> Kurt Sperry
>>> Bellingham WA
>>> USA
>>>
>>> On 10/29/06, worthy2@earthlink.net <worthy2@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How does one correctly pronounce "Ci\ufffdcc?" Is it
>more-or-less
>>>>> "cho
>>>> ke?"
>>>> ---no, it's "choch", like choke but with a soft "ch" ending.
>>>>>
>>>>> And how do most people pronounce the name of the model?
>>>>>
>>>>> Moscow?
>>>> ---yes, the word is Moscow, the letters are Cyrillic and not
>>> intented to
>>>> be
>>>> sounded like the Latin letters they resemble. Tho it should be
>done
>>> with a
>>>> correct Russian accent :c)
>>>>> Mosk-va?
>>>>> Mok-ba?
>>>>>
>>>>> David Bean
>>>>> Arlington, MA
>>>> ---Alan Goldsworthy
>>>> San Francisco, CA, USA