re: [CR]Help with Record rear derailleur

(Example: Humor:John Pergolizzi)

Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 06:43:22 -0400
From: "Harvey Sachs" <hmsachs@verizon.net>
Subject: re: [CR]Help with Record rear derailleur
To: otis@otisrecords.com


Excellent pix, Jon. I believe, but could be wrong, that the rear plate is longer than the front one, and that a prior owner bulged the rear one to fix the problem you now have. But, this is just a guess, and easily refuted by carefully measuring the lengths (at the pin centers, of course).

If I am right, then bulging is probably easier than finding a Record "organ donor." I just checked my stash, and the eyeball thinks that the record plates are a mm or 2 longer than the preceding Gran Sport plates, but may be the same length as the later (aluminum) Nuovo Record plates.

good luck with the reconstructive surgery!

harvey sachs mcLean va ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I'm having trouble with an early 60's Record rear der. This is first time I've ever worked on one of these so I'm hoping I can get some guidance from the more experienced hands around here.

The problem is the cage is not running parallel to the driveline. It appears to be flared out at quite a drastic angle. This is causing some bad chain rub on the cage, lots of noise, and pretty poor shifting. I would normally go right to a hanger adjustment in this case (and I have not yet borrowed an alignment gauge to check it), But when installing a known good Nuovo Record der it lines up perfectly.

The inner portion of the cage (not shown) looked kind of tweaked and bulged in the center, so I've removed and flattened it. But I do not see how the piece connected to the lower pivot can be altered? The der looked almost new when I got it, but I did remove the lower pivot assy. to clean out the dry grease and re-lube. Is it possible that I re-assembled it wrong and changed the angle? Or is there some other adjustment I can make? As of now the only thing I can think of is to bend the hanger, but again I'm pretty sure that is not the root cause.

Here's a couple of pics, if you sight down the cage to the chainring or crank arm you can see how far off line it is.

http://uci.net/~brennan/temp-recder1.jpg

http://uci.net/~brennan/temp-recder2.jpg

Thanks much, Jon Williams
Grants Pass OR USA