Re: [CR]WTB: Suntour Superbe front der

(Example: Framebuilders:Masi)

To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:24:20 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR]WTB: Suntour Superbe front der
From: "Karl Frantz" <karl.frantz@juno.com>


On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:58:49 EST RaleighPro531@aol.com writes:
> I have a Cyclone with a short cage, and the long cage version is the Cyclone
> GT, correct?
> On the CycloneGT the part that attaches to the hanger is a different shape to
> allow the derailleur to drop lower and handle large cogs.
> I picked up another Cyclone GT, the one with black components on it and it
> takes a different mounting bolt from either of the other Cyclones I have.
> See: http://member.nifty.ne.jp/~suntour/rd/rd.html

Well, the GT Cyclone on that site certainly seems to have an extended upper body, though it's hard to see well.

I just compared a pair of ca. 1980 Cyclones I have, and the short-cage and long-cage models are the same except for the cages. The long-cage isn't marked "GT" anywhere, but that's true of at least some of the long-cage Vx derailleurs I've seen too (there's possibly an exception in my junk box right now but I don't recall it). Either the GT I have is actually a modified short-cage model, or SunTour changed them somewhere along the way. Wouldn't surprise me...

I also just looked in a 1981 Bikecology catalogue and the illustrations of Cyclone components look like the two I've got - the long-cage model, identified as "GT-Touring", differs in the cage only. The front plates bear the same name, and the dropout mounting appears the same.

Of course the Cyclone Mk II came out around 1983 or so, then they later reverted to just "Cyclone", but those are too recent for this list, I think.

The modification might still be useful, even without the extended upper body, because the long cage also moves the jockey wheel down to the cage pivot which should give more clearance for big cogs.

By the way, I've got black Cyclone derailleurs on my Riv - quite pretty - bought 'em new around 1980 for my Viscount. It probably reveals an embarrassingly low amount of riding that they're still in good shape :-).

Karl Frantz Sterling, Massachusetts -------------------------------------------------- Karl.Frantz@juno.com

P.S. that Bikecology catalogue also shows the first generation Superbe stuff, calling it variously "ProSuperbe" and "Pro Superbe". That catalogue has some other questionable info in it too, but the pictures are useful! ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.