My '83 Gios Torino was 75/75 angles, I liked it. Never had another frame that steep since.
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The Gios was fun; I hadn't realized they were so steep, but it makes sense
in light of the handling.
The other quick older frames I've had: '84 Ciocc, Atala, & Serotta Colorado
. The Ciocc was a cool frame; nice handling & comfortable, but at 64cm; too
big. I bought a 61cm Ciocc frameset & built it up with great anticipation,
but it didn't have anything like the same feel. The 59cm Atala was scary &
ridiculous; with toe overlap for anyone wearing over a 38; but it was too
small a frame for me anyway so I shouldn't judge. The 61cm Serotta was like
a scalpel; I wish I'd had room for it in the garage; but it was tiring to
hold steady on even a 30 mile ride. Stiff rear triangle on that bike.