Re: [CR]Brooks Saddles - Latest News From Web Site


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From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: "John Burdett" <burdettj@telus.net>, "Raoul Delmare" <Raoul.L.Delmare@worldnet.att.net>, "C.R. List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "Andy M. at YellowJersey" <amuzi@yellowjersey.org>, "Bill L. at Wallbike" <bill@wallbike.com>, "Bruce C." <BruceCumberland@comcast.net>, "Mark B." <mark@bulgier.net>, "Riv, Grant" <Grant@rivbike.com>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Brooks Saddles - Latest News From Web Site
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:06:06 -0600


John, guess you aren't a Francophile -yet. For more than half of the 20th century, Ideale was THE French saddle, just as Brooks was THE British saddle. I'm pretty sure Ideale goes back well before WWII just as Brooks does, although I don't know if Ideale is quite as old. The Ideale model 90 was the equivalent of the Brooks Pro and the designs were quite similar. The Ideale mod 80 was roughly the equivalent of the Brooks B17 in terms of cost and quality, although at this level designs were less similar. There were many other Ideale models, just as there were many Brooks models. In the late 70's/80s Ideale produced leather covered plastic saddle like the Cinelli Unicanitor. One might say Ideale was the Brooks of France, although I suppose the French would have it that Brooks was the Ideale of Britain.

Regards,

Jerry "reestablishing my Francophile credentials by picking up a Vitus today
on eBay" Moos
Houston, TX


----- Original Message -----
From: John Burdett
To: Raoul Delmare


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> I've got a saddle which looks and sounds like a Brooks. It's hard brown
> leather, adjustable tension, steel rails with copper rivets and is stamped
> IDEALE COMPETITION... MADE IN FRANCE. Anybody know the history of this
> brand of saddle and which came first.. the Brits or the French ?
>
> John of Holdsworth
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raoul Delmare" <Raoul.L.Delmare@worldnet.att.net>
> To: "C.R. List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>; "Andy M. at
> YellowJersey" <amuzi@yellowjersey.org>; "Bill L. at Wallbike"
> <bill@wallbike.com>; "Bruce C." <BruceCumberland@comcast.net>; "Mark B."
> <mark@bulgier.net>; "Riv, Grant" <Grant@rivbike.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 6:51 PM
> Subject: [CR]Brooks Saddles - Latest News From Web Site
>
>
> > Hey Thanks Craig , for mentioning that really nice article !
> >
> >
> > So , because of reading that article , I visited the official
> Brooks
> > Web Site .
> >
> > http://www.brookssaddles.com
> >
> > HEY !!!!!! There are some things nobody has mentioned !! As
> we
> > all know , Brooks was bought by a larger , more financially rich ,
> > bicycle saddle company from Italia . As most of us have read ( with
> > great relief ) , the news seems to be all-good for the future of
> Genuine
> > Brooks Leather Saddles . As most of us know , the B.17 Swallow is
> > coming back !! And all of the various variations of the B.17 seem
> safe
> > , for the present , and for the near future .
> >
> > HOWEVER , according to the web site , the Brooks Professional (
> > small rivet ) is . . . gone !!
> >
> > ( Since the Brooks Professional was a descendant of the Brooks B.17
> ,
> > you could claim that the Professional is a variation of the B.17 , I
> > suppose . . . )
> >
> > The Brooks Team Professional ( large hammered rivet ) is still
> doing
> > just fine , in both regular and "S" ( short , primarily for women )
> .
> >
> > And , the color Burgundy is . . . gone !! Although the
> very
> > latest color , that very dark green , still lives on .
> >
> > So , the news is good , great in fact !! But , as always ,
> if
> > you see something you like , BUY IT WHILE YOU STILL CAN !!
> >
> >
> > Raoul Delmare
> > Marysville Kansas
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Craig Fenstermaker"
> <Craig.Fenstermaker@AmericanMedicalSystems.com>
> > To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 12:55 PM
> > Subject: [CR]what the heck is a brooks b17?
> >
> >
> > Grin :-)
> >
> > Check out
> >
> > http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2004/reviews/brooks_b17
> >
> > for a modern spin on this venerable piece.
> >
> > Craig Fenstermaker
> > Minnetonka mn

> >

> >

> >