RE: [CR] Denver Veloswap Party Event Alternative?

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From: "Jeff Nye" <>
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Subject: RE: [CR] Denver Veloswap Party Event Alternative?
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:35:16 -0600
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Hi Mike,

It is pretty discouraging to see the path that our beloved VS is taking, I started attending maybe eight years a go when the cost was reasonable, the venue small and the goal simple. IMHO, the costs have really gotten out of hand, my long time partner has thrown in the towel so I may be trying to staff my table as a solo act this year, (if I attend at all).

I would gladly support another swap if you put one together, especially since about half of my purchases were across your table last year.

Thanks for the nickel tour last Friday, it was good to see you. Jeff Nye Ft. Collins, CO

-----Original Message----- From: []On Behalf Of Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 3:45 PM To: Subject: Re: [CR] Denver Veloswap Party Event Alternative?

Hi CR folks,

I just looked at the Denver Veloswap pricing and it is getting very expensive for individual sellers - every year there is less cool stuff as the corporate "expo" booths take over the event. They really seem to want to push the little guys out.

I'm wondering if folks would be interested in getting together on the Veloswap date for an alternative in the Denver area - something ride/swap/party/show related.

Most of the cool stuff at the swap is from myself and others selling cool stuff among ourselves.

We could also donate some money to Bicycle Colorado too. Veloswap runs the event as a profit maker and only a small amount of the proceeds go to the listed charities.

If there is interest, I'd be willing to put a little time into organizing it. If not, I'll just suck it up and go to Veloswap.

It isn't the money that bothers me, its the principle. Veloswap charges Clubs $175 and NonProfits $150 for a table at the event. Seems just a bit too greedy. If all profits were going to the charity (after paying a few staff members to actually do it) I'd understand. But this is a bit much.

Mike "ranting away" in Boulder CO

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> In a message dated 8/18/2005 11:27:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> writes:
> << Sorry to say I was wrong and will now deal with those I do not personally
> know as if they were just another eBay seller. Shame as it is really small
> potatoes by comparison but it speaks volumes about a person and can turn an
> otherwise favorable opinion into one like this. Some believe these people should
> be
> outed but that is not and never will be my style. I just will have to be more
> careful in the
> future and make note for any dealings with those people. >>
> Rats! (An exclamation and a description of those who foul the CR nest!)
> Sorry that you had those bad experiences Ray. I was glad to meet you at this
> year's Cirque and know you to be a great guy so I hate that negatives reared
> their ugly faces....
> BUT, I still think that despite a few stinkers (!), CR folk are, in the great
> majority, a noble bunch! I know I truly value the friends I have met through
> all this.. I can ignore the few rotten apples!


> Dale


> Dale Brown

> Greensboro, NC USA