Re: [CR]Cinelli bar size?? Timeline?

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From: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Cinelli bar size?? Timeline?
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:28:36 -0700
To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>


Oops! Yes, make that 22.0 mm.

Chuck Schmidt South Pasadena, Southern California

On Aug 10, 2006, at 5:51 AM, Fred Rafael Rednor wrote:
> I just want to make sure I'm read all this correctly: Were
> there really French bikes that used a stem diameter of 21.15mm
> on high quality frames? This dimension seems suspiciously
> close to the .833 inch (i.e. 21.16 mm) diameter stems used on
> old American bicycles. Is that the actual story here?
>
> In any event, until now I had not heard of Cinelli making stems
> with this sort of stem diameter. Certainly I've seen (and own)
> Cinelli stems with the typically French 22.0 mm diameter. And
> I think that someone like GB made quality stems for Schwinn in
> the .833"/21.16mm diameter.
>
> But Cinellis in 21.2mm? For a French bicycle, that sounds like
> a size that you would use on utility/delivery bicycle, not on a
> real road or touring bike. So what's the complete story?
>
> By the way, to answer the original question... there were
> Cinelli stems/bars whose clamp diameter was less than 26mm. I
> had an old steel Cinelli stem (with an aluminum alloy bar)
> whose clamp diameter is either 35mm or 25.4. I still have the
> bars, so I'll have to go down to my dungeon one of these days
> to measure.
> Répondez s'il vous plaît,
> Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)
>
> --- Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> Yes Cinelli made stems for french steerers in 21.2 mm. In
>> one of
>> those Peugeot posters from the late 1970s showing the team
>> and their
>> bikes (they are riding toward the camera) about half of the
>> team has
>> Cinelli 1R stems on their bikes. I put one on my PY10CP team
>> bike
>> from back then along with Cinelli Criterium bars.
>>
>> Even back then I don't think the Cinelli french sized stems
>> were
>> known about. Not sure if there is any marking on the stems
>> noting
>> the 21.2 mm quill.
>>
>> Chuck Schmidt
>> South Pasadena, Southern California
>>
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2006, at 12:07 AM, Tom Martin wrote:
>>
>>> speaking of Cinelli:
>>>
>>> Did Cinelli ever make a 21.2 mm quill stem for French
>> bikes?
>>> I had a customer ask and expect this size to be available
>> as a routine
>>> offering from Back In The Day.
>>>
>>> Anyone?
>>>
>>> Tom Martin
>>> Oakalnd CA
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: vjp@telus.net [mailto:vjp@telus.net]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:43 PM
>>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>>> Subject: [CR]Cinelli bar size?? Timeline?
>>>
>>> I was looking through the Velo Stuff picture gallery this
>> evening
>>> and there
>>> is a "rare" Cinelli handlebar with 2 knurled rings on the
>> center
>>> ferrule and
>>> it measures 26mm instead of 26.4mm. I pulled out a Cinelli
>>
>>> Campione Del
>>> Mondo handlebar with old "Knight logo" from my stash and it
>> is also
>>> 26mm
>>> (and has the 2 knurled rings).
>>>
>>> Were the Cinelli bars originally 26mm and then they went to
>> 26.4 and
>>> eventually back to 26?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Victor Penner
>>>
>>> Vancouver BC Canada
>>>
>>>
>>>
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