Re: [CR]Odd Campagnolo cranks for the experts...


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Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 18:10:48 -0800
From: galen pewtherer <dolface@gmail.com>
To: Tam Pham <terminaut@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Odd Campagnolo cranks for the experts...
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re: the concentric milling marks onn the back of the spider, i've got a set sugino super mighty cranks that have the same marks.

galen pewtherer san francisco, ca

On 1/30/06, Tam Pham <terminaut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark - thanks for the link to your auction. At this point I'm pretty sure
> these cranks aren't machined down versions of the SR/NR cranks or Ofmegas
> (at least not the ones in your auction). The arms are wider, and in gener al
> the cranks seem to have more material and are more stout. Here's a photo of
> the Pista non-drive arm versus the mystery set's:
>
> http://chainedrevolution.com/CS/photos/general/images/73/original.aspx
>
> ...and if you look at the spider-to-crank junction, the mystery cranks ha ve
> quite a bit more of the arm connected to the spider:
>
> http://chainedrevolution.com/CS/photos/general/images/74/original.aspx
>
> As for the concentric machined circles on the back of the spider, I haven 't
> seen any other crank manufacturers leave that treatment on their cranks.
> Does anyone know another set of cranks like that?
>
> Tam Pham
> Huntington Beach, CA
>
>
> On 1/30/06, FujiFish1@aol.com <FujiFish1@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > Tam,
> > Here's some Ofmega cranks that are "Mexico" copies, I just happened to
> > have
> > sold on Ebay:
> > <
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7213198703&rd=1& ss
> pagename
> > =STRK%3AMESO%3AIT&rd=1>
> >
> > Or, Ebay item number 7213198703.
> >
> > If you want the real photos, and not just the Ebay shrinky dink version s,
> > let
> > me know.
> >
> > What about measurements ... are there any dimensions you can find on th e
> > subject crank that exceed those of an unmodified Campy crank? For
> > example, an arm
> > in total length measures just a tad over 20.5cm; so if your subject arm
> > should measure clearly larger than that, it cannot be a modified Campy N/
> S
> > Record
> > era crank. Of course, it could also be a modified Gran Sport crank. :)
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Mark Agree
> > Southfield MI USA
> > ~ ~ ~
> >
> >
> > Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:37:18 -0800
> > From: Tam Pham <terminaut@gmail.com>
> > To: Brandon Ives <brandon@ivycycles.com>
> > Cc: CR <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Subject: Re: [CR]Odd Campagnolo cranks for the experts...
> >
> > That'd be interesting if someone would go to such length to clone a Cam py
> > crankset, and do it so poorly even! Can you point me to some photos of th
> e
> > Ofmega cranks of interest? Googling isn't turning up anything for me.
> >
> > I just pulled off a Pista drive side arm from one of my bikes, and I'm
> > starting to convince myself that these cranks could really be the real
> > deal
> > .
> > Check out this photo:
> >
> > http://chainedrevolution.com/CS/photos/general/images/72/original.aspx
> >
> > As I mentioned before, note the concentric machining circles sort of
> > unique
> > to Campagnolo... but now check out the spindle hole! It's identical as fa
> r
> > as I can tell.
> >
> >
> > Tam Pham
> > Huntington Beach, CA
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/30/06, Brandon Ives <brandon@ivycycles.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > 100% FAKEY FAKE.
> > > They look like Ofmega cranks that have been profiled and then stamped
> > > both front and rear. I think the best tell that these are fake are t he
> > > "campy" stamps. First the one on the driveside seems to be closer to
> > > the spindle whole and the stamps are slightly rotated and closer to o ne
> > > side of the arm off center. Second is the huge cut-out for a pedal
> > > washer.
> > > best,
> > > Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
> > > Vancouver, B.C.
> > >
> > > On Monday, Jan 30, 2006, at 14:20 US/Pacific, David Bilenkey wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tam,
> > > >
> > > > What's the BCD on these cranks? I agree that they do look like a
> > > > copy/fakes.
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > > --
> > > > David Bilenkey
> > > > Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
> > > > dbilenkey@sympatico.ca
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> > > >> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Tam P ha
> m
> > > >> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:49 PM
> > > >> To: CR
> > > >> Subject: [CR]Odd Campagnolo cranks for the experts...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >> I recently picked up a set of Campagnolo cranks unlike
> > > >> anything I've seen before and was wondering if perhaps
> > > >> someone else could identify the set. I almost think it's a
> > > >> fake, but the stamped wing logo seems like it would require
> > > >> elaborate work. As always, any info shed upon these cranks
> > > >> would be much appreciated.
> > > >>
> > > >> See photos here:
> > > >>
> > > >> http://chainedrevolution.com/CS/photos/general/category1024.aspx
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers from Huntington Beach, California!
> > > >>
> > > >> -Tam Pham