Thanks for the opinions, posts on my 72 Paramount. This was a good exercise for me and made me think. I appreciate all the comments and questions. I learned something as well. My answers to the comments. Comments in standard, my answers in italics.
You realize of course that those are 77-80 paramount decals, they arewholly inappropriate (every one of them) for a 1972 bicycle ?? In retrospect, I do realize that. I have a 74 Paramount painted by Schwinn at Waterford in 93, where I believe they put period correct decals on. I will post pics of that frame later. These decals, I believe were supplied by Schwinn at the time of the repaint, probably in 82. And were correct for that later time. See letter from Bill Imielski in the pics. I would sell it with Wienmann centerpulls and put on the decals. I sort of doubt a bike in Kool Orange and sold with a kickstand had the Campagnolo br ake option
I will probably leave the question of the brakes and decals to the next owner. I plan on offering campy brakes as an option if the bidding reaches $1200.00 or more. Weinmanns should be available enough that most anyone could find them.
This is a very nice bike...the sight of those D.A. brakes on it make mecrin ge. The bike came standard with Weinmann brakes and the Campagnolo werean expensive $50 option. The bike cost something like $430 back then so youca n see what a hunk of change those Campagnolo brakes were. If I could,I'd p robably put Weinmanns on for resale and keep the Campy ones. If theCampy i s what you have and you want top dollar for the bike put them on byall mean s. Paramount prices have been on the rise of late and this would be a goo dtime to sell it...let someone give themselves a nice Christmas present!As an aside, Schwinn bought parts in huge quantities and then used them fora long time...every '72 Paramount I have seen has had '68 dated axle locknuts . They also printed up their catalogs a ways in advance and every oncein a while you'll see a Schwinn with a color on it that was not listed inthe c atalog as being available in that year. This color information comesfrom m y buddy, sometimes list member, Raoul Delmire. I remember selling Dura Ace brakes in the 70s to those who wanted them. I have no way of knowing when they were installed on this bike. Maybe when the bike was repainted, probably in 82. I have Campy brakes, probably about period correct. but don't know how to date them, and will offer them, as I said above. I don't remember Campy brakes as changing much during the mid to late 70's. Someone could fill me in and I would be grateful. I will take a look at the locknuts. I didn't realize they have dates on the m are they coded? or actual numbers. I need to give myself a Christmas present, so am hoping for high bids on the bike.
Greetings, My 71 Paramount, purchased from the orginal owner, also came to me with early Dura Ace levers and calipers. I've kept the Japanese theme going by swapping the Campy pedals and the Cinelli bars with Nitto products ....OH MY gasps the crowd!
See what I mean. Dura Ace could have been correct for those who wanted them
Hi Robb. I'm in the market for a bike and may be interested in purchasing y our Paramount since it is my size. I would plan on rideing it and not hang it on a wall. I'm looking for an original classic so putting the stock Camp y brakes back on would be a plus in my book. Once you determine a price, pl ease let me know. Thanks
On this one, I am going to let the Ebay market determine the price. I will list it in the next couple of days.
Certainly. DA brakes would not look right on an otherwise all-campag bike.A nd if the buyer wants it just like it was originally sold, you'd betterfind that kickstand. ;) (Still shaking my head, wondering whet kind ofperson wo uld order a Paramount with a kickstand. Probably also had aCorvette with cu rb feelers.)
And of course, the buyer could do with it as he/she pleases.
What size, and how much
Listed as 22" and again, Ebay bidding will determine price.
If original Dura-Ace brakes are not period correct, they are only off by a
year two. As to the Campy being "better" brakes, I don't know what you mean.. If you mean finish, I'd put original DA dead even. As to stopping
power, I'd give DA a very slight edge. Campy did have the little rubber O-rings that protected the frame, so I guess you might give them the e dge based on that, but only just
I agree with all that.
No Paramount expert here, but from a common-sense point of view, I would say that if you have the correct Campy brakes for this 1972 Paramount, you should put them on, or at least offer them as part of the deal. What with the original sales documents, they would definitely complement the "original" aspect of your bike. It's too bad the decals are not on the bike, that would really enhance the appeal. On the other hand, providing them separately will allow the buyer to repaint the frame to a different color and then apply the decals.
all makes sense to me.
Thanks everyone for this little exercise. It gives me insight. And
I would like this bike to go to someone who would appreciate it
and do with it what they think is right.
I will put pics of the Campy brakes I have available with the pics
on my web page, and will probably offer them as an option
on my Ebay auction for this bike.
Robb Rasmussen.
Brookings, SD