[CR]Re: Parting out bikes, greed, capitalism...


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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:21:11 -0400
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From: loudeeter@aol.com
Subject: [CR]Re: Parting out bikes, greed, capitalism...

I agree that the Rene' Herse being parted out is a different situation, but in general, when I've offered complete bikes to this list, about 90% of the time, I end up getting an offer for only the frame/fork/hs.? Granted that all of my bikes may not have original parts and if they do, they weren't sold that way in the first place, but I find a bit of hypocrisy that so many are getting on the "don't part it out" bandwagon when their own actions decry that same position.? I've said it before, unless you have a rare bike or one that has parts made specifically for that bike, I see nothing wrong with parting out.??? Lou Deeter, Orlando FL USA

-----Original Message----- From: sgshaw@aol.com To: curmudgeon1957@yahoo.com; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 6:29 am Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Parting out bikes, greed, capitalism...

Larry,

I'm new to this stuff, but your post defending parting out of complete bikes intrigues me.? Whether or not you part out a bike depends upon your motivation to do so.? If you are motivated by making the most profit, then you would part out the bike.? If you are motivated by preservation (as many on this list are) then you would not part out a bike, except when that bike is not usable, or reparable as a complete bike.? That is where parts can and should come from.? Would that make the parts more difficult to find?? Yes, but then more bikes would be preserved in this way.

As for the racist accusation, well that is certainly a red herring to this argument isn't it.

Steve Shaw Millbury, MA

-----Original Message----- From: Larry Myers <curmudgeon1957@yahoo.com> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:16 pm Subject: [CR]Re: Parting out bikes, greed, capitalism...

Greetings all...

I have been following with interest the thread about whether it is "right" to part out a certain rare & valuable bike or not....1) The bike is the property of

the seller; they can do with it as they please....our approval is not necessary or solicited. 2) The classic bike market is a rough way to make a living....I buy & sell complete bikes, off of e-Bay, Craigslist, and other venues- I have often found that the only way not to lose money on these transactions is to sell

the parts separately from the frames. I do not 'make a living' off of these sales; I have a 'real' job at a local non-profit bike shop; the sales & trades I

make basically pay for my own bike Jones. 3) Parting out a bike often serves the

needs of a greater number of people, rather than selling the bike 'intact'. How many of us are in need of only a period piece or two, to complete a long-running

resto project- but we see those pieces only available attached to a $2,000+ bike

sale. Offering the parts separately enables a larger number of people to complete their projects more economically- what's wrong with that? For instance- I recently sold the wheels, crankset, and brakes from a pre-Raleigh 'Carlton Flyer' to list members. All the

buyers were very happy with their purchase, as it allowed them to finish various

projects; I was happy as their purchases allowed me to be able to afford to complete some of my own projects....and, finally - why the all the resentment & thinly-veiled racism directed towards our fellow enthusiasts from Japan? An inquiring mind wants to know...

Regards, Larry Myers Portland, OR,USA

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