Re: [CR] NOS/NIB 1974 Raleigh Pro MkIV...True!!

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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:35:04 -0400
From: "George Allen" <>
Subject: Re: [CR] NOS/NIB 1974 Raleigh Pro MkIV...True!!
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Good eye, Don. None of that stuff would have been original. If you're lusting after a Raleigh Pro here's a nice frame. I figure you could buy the frame and pick up the right pieces for maybe $1500.00 and save 3-1/2 grand. BTW, the bars aren't correct either. They should be the GB "Map of England" bars. And the AVA rims are not what I've seen on mid-1970's Raleighs. Sorry to nitpick and I know Raleigh did a lot of substituting but for $5000.00 I'm going to have to demand catalog correctness.

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George Allen Lexington, Kentucky USA

donald gillies wrote:
>There are some questionable parts ... it looks like some parts were
>scavenged from the bike, and later replaced with not-exact originals.
>1. The 3TTT stems with the engraved '3TTT' - is not a 1974 article,
> as far as I am aware ... My 1974 pro has a 3TTT Record stem with
> the labels and the name embossed.
>2. The toe clips that say, 'Christophe Special' in two rows ... are
> not a 1974 article, as far as I am aware. When did Christophe
> change from [CHRISTOPHESpecial] (scrunched) to 2-row toe clips ??
>3. The zefal HP pump which says 'Competition' on it, and has a grey
> (and not black) rubber handle, is something I have never seen
> anywhere before. Is it a 'Missing Link' pump ?? And I have never
> seen it supplied with a 'NOS Raleigh', so I wonder if it, too, is
> original equipment ?? The pump should be Brittania or something.
>4. The brake levers have 'U'-shaped cable entries. My 1974 Raleigh
> Pro has 'O'-shaped cable entries under the levers. Also, why
> can't we see if the hoods are world-logo ??
>5. The blue Velox plus were NEVER shipped on raleighs in the 1970's.
> Raleigh used Milremo Star white plastic plugs throughout the
> line. I have dozens of these plugs in my 1974 raleigh colletion.
>6. Raleigh would NEVER need to ship a seatpost in a gransport box.
> They didn't offer gransport parts from ~1965-1976.
>7. Raleigh never shipped a bike with an Ideale saddle. They owned
> brooks. That would be stupid !!
>When were Zefal HP pumps introduced ??
>- Don Gillies
>San Diego, CA, USA

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