Re: [CR]French tubes...was top tube cable clips

(Example: Framebuilders:Masi)

Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:20:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <>
Subject: Re: [CR]French tubes...was top tube cable clips
To: Nick Zatezalo <>, Tom Sanders <>,
In-Reply-To: <>

I agree with you about French components on French bikes, but the fact is that Campy components were so popular that most French manufacturers sold an all-Campy model in the 70's. And by the mid-80's, even Peugeot had relented and were selling a Campy NR/SR PZ-10.


Jerry Moos Big Spring, TX

Nick Zatezalo <> wrote: Why would any one want to place Italian components on a French bicycle? I have owned 30-40 Italian bicycles and never once thought of using French components on any of them. My one French bicycle was equipped with all French components. Just wondering.

Nick Zatezalo Atlanta,Ga.

-----Original Message-----

>From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos

>Sent: Jan 10, 2006 3:09 PM

>To: Tom Sanders ,

>Subject: Re: [CR]French tubes...was top tube cable clips


>Mais non, mon ami. French downtube and seattube were smaller, 28mm vs 28.6mm (1 1/8"), but the toptube was larger, 26mm vs 25.4mm (1"). Sheldon's site gives an excellent summary of French bike dimensions (both frames and components) versus English/ISO. One usually first discovers the larger toptube when one tries to install Campy cable clips on a French bike. You can usually make them fit, but only with great effort.


> Regards,


> Jerry Moos

> Big Spring, TX


>Tom Sanders wrote:

> Jerry Moos wrote : "Did Campy ever make


>> clips with longer screws for use on French bikes?"


>I thought the reason Campagnolo made those crescent shaped shims to go under

>clamp on components was because French tubes were smaller...Am I mistaken on

>this? Perhaps one of the lists Francophiles can illuminate the subject a



>Tom Sanders


>No French bikes in Lansing, Mi