Re: Re[4]: [CR]A BH track hub. Italian ?

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From: "ternst" <>
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Subject: Re: Re[4]: [CR]A BH track hub. Italian ?
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:39:52 -0800

I think John has it that our buddie Nick mislead us by asking about a track hub when indeed it is a road hub with wide straight threading size. I even thought guys would ride freewheel to TT's and reverse wheel, ride fixed in the TT and then reverse wheel for ride home.
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates

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From: "John Betmanis"
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Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Re[4]: [CR]A BH track hub. Italian ?

> At 12:54 PM 10/12/2008 -0800, ternst wrote:
>>The original Q was on a straight thread hub could a lockring be put on and
>>could one use a fixed cog on such a hub.
>>No one wanted to put a lockring on the same thread size as the cog on a
>>track hub.
>>A track hub by definition is one thread size for cog, and a smaller thread
>>diameter in LH for the lockring.
>>Whether it's single or double sided is not important.
>>Some hubs were made with both straight thread for freewheel or cluster and
>>the other side for a fixed.
>>Many people want to put a fixed cog on their straight sided threaded hub
>>if it's tightened tight enuf it will usually stay tite and not roll off,
>>I wouldn't take that chance, and never ride it on the track.
>>Using brakes on a fixed road use is smart in today's traffic.
>>We used to ride fixed in traffic years ago and had no brakes, but traffic
>>was much less and we knew how to glove our wheel and stop very qiuckly
>>a little back pedaling.
>>Many times there is enuff thread left on a straight hub if the cog thread
>>section isn't too wide to sneak a BB lockring on. and save the expense of
>>new wheel. Not really to race but fixed gear training and riding around is
>>Lots of guys used to strip down their road bikes and put the fixed on that
>>way and then several months later convert back.
> That's exactly right. Back in the day when I rode with a club in the UK,
> used to remove the block and replace it with a single cog and BB lockring
> for winter riding, often dispensing with the rear brake, but never the
> front. The law was very strict about having two "brakes". The question
> should be, why did Nick March describe this as a track hub when it does
> not
> have track threading?
> John Betmanis
> Woodstock, Ontario
> Canada